United States College Foot Ball - BCS

JALU3 · 09-09-07, 03:45 AM

Someone explain to me why there isn't a play off system like there is in Basketball amd Baseball for NCAA Football . . . to meet it seems like those who are chosen to go to the major Bowl games are chosen randomly or more based for their namesake then their actual record. I mean there is no chance for a small team to go up against a big name team.

Camaero · 09-09-07, 03:52 AM

That is why I do not watch college football.

blue3golf · 09-09-07, 01:18 PM

There are simply to many teams in college to go with the standard playoff scheme. It's not so much about your record alone as your record combined with the strength of your schedule for the year. Why should and undefeated team playing small schools go for the championship against a school that gets a loss but played a host of big tough schools? Little teams get their chance all the time to upset a big school. Take Michigan's loss last week to an unranked team or on the other side of the fence Central Michigan University taking a stomping from Kansas. Let's face it, big schools have better programs. Why? THey got all that money to entice the best to come play for them. It's not a horrible system once you get to understand it. Does it have it's faults? Sure it does, some teams do get by with name only for a season or so, but in the end it's what we got and have had for a long time and I see it's existence for a long time to come.

nikimcbee · 09-09-07, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JALU3

Someone explain to me why there isn't a play off system like there is in Basketball amd Baseball for NCAA Football . . . to meet it seems like those who are chosen to go to the major Bowl games are chosen randomly or more based for their namesake then their actual record. I mean there is no chance for a small team to go up against a big name team.

I totally agree. I think there is too much money and tradition in college football, and the people running it will never allow it to be broken

Heibges · 09-09-07, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blue3golf

There are simply to many teams in college to go with the standard playoff scheme. It's not so much about your record alone as your record combined with the strength of your schedule for the year. Why should and undefeated team playing small schools go for the championship against a school that gets a loss but played a host of big tough schools? Little teams get their chance all the time to upset a big school. Take Michigan's loss last week to an unranked team or on the other side of the fence Central Michigan University taking a stomping from Kansas. Let's face it, big schools have better programs. Why? THey got all that money to entice the best to come play for them. It's not a horrible system once you get to understand it. Does it have it's faults? Sure it does, some teams do get by with name only for a season or so, but in the end it's what we got and have had for a long time and I see it's existence for a long time to come.

Another problem is that you really can't play 2 games in 3 days like during March Maddness.

They only answer would be to have one Super Division of all the top schools, but this would erase many of the old rivalries that still make college football so popular. Plus the season is only 10 sometimes 11 games.

JALU3 · 09-09-07, 11:18 PM

Then how about this . . . why not mix the playoffs with the regular season . . . that way all teams get into the playoff ladder, somewhere (as long as there Division Ia) . . . and depending on whether they win or not . . . will determine whether they keep their regular schedule . . . or continue down the ladder . . . until only two remain in the ladder.
At first the ladders remain within their respective conference until there is one clear winner based on the ladder results . . . this then breaks down to super regional semifinals . . . then quarter finals . . . and then to the final . . . see now there is no need for computer ranking or human ranking

. . . it comes down to raw abilities . . . making money less important (yet still a factor, it will never not be)

blue3golf · 09-10-07, 08:15 PM

Technically the season is like a playoff ladder, only problem is the same teams will still be at the top like they are now. You can climb the ranks and make it into the bowl games, but the small schools rarely upset anyone so what's the point? Even if they do pull a huge victory can they do it consistently, probably not. One upset doesn't justify a bowl game.

P.S. I am a Central Michigan fan, small school, Div II, MAC conference, I like the small schools but they just don't hold up against the big ones 99% of the time.

JALU3 · 09-10-07, 10:36 PM

You think you had it bad, I went to CSU Sacramento (a.k.a. "Slack State") . . . and we have no football program to speak of . . . I think last year we were 4-7 . . . and I think the toughest school we had was Boise State

blue3golf · 09-11-07, 07:20 AM

We won the MAC last year but got destroyed in our bowl game. Think it was the motor city bowl. Off to a 1-1 start this year. New head coach though.

nikimcbee · 10-03-07, 02:50 AM

What's up with Michigan.... and Notre Dame:rotfl: I can't believe Michigan went 0-2, losing to Ore-gone...at home! I'm glad I didn't bet on that game. That's okay oregon lost to Cal. The homer news reports/fans get all excited for nothing. They go 4-0, they get ranked, they talk how they deserve the Heisman, then they meltdown:rotfl: . Atleast this year they aren't modeling new uniform!

Kapitan_Phillips · 10-03-07, 03:08 AM

09-09-07, 03:45 AM	#1
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	United States College Foot Ball - BCS Someone explain to me why there isn't a play off system like there is in Basketball amd Baseball for NCAA Football . . . to meet it seems like those who are chosen to go to the major Bowl games are chosen randomly or more based for their namesake then their actual record. I mean there is no chance for a small team to go up against a big name team. __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

09-09-07, 03:52 AM	#2
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	That is why I do not watch college football. __________________

09-09-07, 11:18 PM	#6
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Then how about this . . . why not mix the playoffs with the regular season . . . that way all teams get into the playoff ladder, somewhere (as long as there Division Ia) . . . and depending on whether they win or not . . . will determine whether they keep their regular schedule . . . or continue down the ladder . . . until only two remain in the ladder. At first the ladders remain within their respective conference until there is one clear winner based on the ladder results . . . this then breaks down to super regional semifinals . . . then quarter finals . . . and then to the final . . . see now there is no need for computer ranking or human ranking . . . it comes down to raw abilities . . . making money less important (yet still a factor, it will never not be) __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

09-10-07, 10:36 PM	#8
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You think you had it bad, I went to CSU Sacramento (a.k.a. "Slack State") . . . and we have no football program to speak of . . . I think last year we were 4-7 . . . and I think the toughest school we had was Boise State __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

10-03-07, 02:50 AM	#10
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	What's up with Michigan.... and Notre Dame:rotfl: I can't believe Michigan went 0-2, losing to Ore-gone...at home! I'm glad I didn't bet on that game. That's okay oregon lost to Cal. The homer news reports/fans get all excited for nothing. They go 4-0, they get ranked, they talk how they deserve the Heisman, then they meltdown:rotfl: . Atleast this year they aren't modeling new uniform! __________________

09-09-07, 01:18 PM	#3
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There are simply to many teams in college to go with the standard playoff scheme. It's not so much about your record alone as your record combined with the strength of your schedule for the year. Why should and undefeated team playing small schools go for the championship against a school that gets a loss but played a host of big tough schools? Little teams get their chance all the time to upset a big school. Take Michigan's loss last week to an unranked team or on the other side of the fence Central Michigan University taking a stomping from Kansas. Let's face it, big schools have better programs. Why? THey got all that money to entice the best to come play for them. It's not a horrible system once you get to understand it. Does it have it's faults? Sure it does, some teams do get by with name only for a season or so, but in the end it's what we got and have had for a long time and I see it's existence for a long time to come.

09-10-07, 08:15 PM	#7
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Technically the season is like a playoff ladder, only problem is the same teams will still be at the top like they are now. You can climb the ranks and make it into the bowl games, but the small schools rarely upset anyone so what's the point? Even if they do pull a huge victory can they do it consistently, probably not. One upset doesn't justify a bowl game. P.S. I am a Central Michigan fan, small school, Div II, MAC conference, I like the small schools but they just don't hold up against the big ones 99% of the time.

09-11-07, 07:20 AM	#9
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We won the MAC last year but got destroyed in our bowl game. Think it was the motor city bowl. Off to a 1-1 start this year. New head coach though.

10-03-07, 03:08 AM	#11
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	__________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.