Anyone interested in SH4 machinima?

SimmerALPHA · 09-27-07, 02:11 PM

Hello,

Let me introduce myself first. My name's Stefan aka SimmerALPHA/Simmer1989. I just learned of SH4 and what a great game it is. I don't have it yet as my computer doesn't run it but I'll get it as soon as I upgrade my PC.

Surfing around on YouTube I spotted some great SH4 videos made by people who also attend this site. I didn't know it was possible to make such good machinima (movies made with games) with SH4. It obviously has great graphics and some great moviemaking possibilities (free camera). So I started thinking how cool it would be to make a machinima movie or series about a US sub in the Pacific during WWII with SH4. Submarine movies/series are a very rare thing in machinima/conventional movies or series. And they always seem to be about U-Boats. I think the Pacific theatre was just as interesting if not more than the Atlantic.

I've been watching these forums for a while and the I think a lot of people would like this idea. Most of you are real sub nuts and I could definately use your help (if anyone is interested).

I might not own SH4 (yet) but the game has inspired me to read more about US subs during WWII. Those men where real heroes and it's a shame their role is so obscure (didn't know anything about the role of US subs in the Pacific theatre). So I chose the USS Tautog (SS-199) as the subject of my proposed series. Of all the subs it has one of the most varied service records I've ever seen. It transported agents, sank the highest number of ships (26!), was in Pearl Harbor at the time of the attack, participated in a simulated war patrol with another sub and much more. Variety is key in a series and the Tautog provides it. It's probably impossible to make it completly realistic so I'm basing the events in the series on the real thing but will obviously have to change some things to make it more thrilling or possible (SH4 won't do everything).

The main character will be the captain. I don't know if it's possible to see the captain as a model. If not I think I'll write it so that we see it through his eyes.

I hope you all like the idea and that a lot of you will want to help make this machinima series come true.

I eagerly await your responses (obviously)

P.S.: I'm posting this on the UBiSH4 forums as well.

SimmerALPHA

donut · 09-27-07, 02:30 PM

Not to dump on your enthusement. Please get SHIV,we are making,& living our own movie every time we play the game. Perhaps a movie with the AI view,would be

SimmerALPHA · 09-27-07, 02:35 PM

Movies are always made for others to can experience what they are missing out on.

And believe me, if I had a PC that was powerful enough to run it, I'd be playing it right now. Alass €750 doesn't fall out the sky to often.

ReallyDedPoet · 09-27-07, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SimmerALPHA

Movies are always made for others to can experience what they are missing out on.

And believe me, if I had a PC that was powerful enough to run it, I'd be playing it right now. Alass €750 doesn't fall out the sky to often.

You should check out some of the movies Stabiz made, they are located first post in the ROW Thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122408
Very well done ^^^.

Also, how will you do this if you cannot run SH4 now on your computer?

Welcome to SUBSIM

by the way.

RDP

DeepIron · 09-27-07, 02:42 PM

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And believe me, if I had a PC that was powerful enough to run it, I'd be playing it right now.

So, let me understand this; you don't have a computer to run SH4 on yet you want to start a machinima project that would obviously require one?

SteamWake · 09-27-07, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

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And believe me, if I had a PC that was powerful enough to run it, I'd be playing it right now.

So, let me understand this; you don't have a computer to run SH4 on yet you want to start a machinima project that would obviously require one?

Nothing wrong with 'dreaming' and planning ahead.

I hope the OP does get a system capable and joins us in all the fun.

SimmerALPHA · 09-27-07, 04:02 PM

I've seen about all the SH4 videos on YouTube including stabiz's. I´ve seen Tordo562 and Jab´s work as well which was also amazing. When I see all those videos I miss one thing. Characters, a story. That´s what I´m trying to bring to table. I never imagined to be doing this on my own. That´s why I´m looking for help in a tight community as this. I´m getting a lot of positive response on the UbiSH4 site so I do know that people want to see it.

I´m just trying to be a catalyst for this project. Trying to get all those people who would like to make SH4 machinima together and some great movies. There are plenty of people on these forums who don´t have SH4 (yet) but are sub nuts nonetheless. I find subs one of the most intriguing parts of WWII and these stories deserve to be told.

I do have a dream, yes. But no one forfilled a big dream on his own. I never said that. Just want to emphasize that I would be writing the script not much more.

DeepIron · 09-27-07, 04:30 PM

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Nothing wrong with 'dreaming' and planning ahead.

No, not at all... Though I do like to see some chance of actualization IF I participate in a project...

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I find subs one of the most intriguing parts of WWII and these stories deserve to be told.

That's well and good and what brings a lot of people to this particular genre. But again, how are you going to accomplish this? Do you have any machinima of your own to show from previous projects?

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I´m just trying to be a catalyst for this project.

Ok, I read this as "I have this really cool idea and ..."

As a former IT project planner and leader on numerous projects I can tell you this, unless you're prepared to realize some concrete results, you'll find it hard to keep anyone's interest for long...

I'm not trying to dissuade you, but I'm failing to see how your going to accomplish any of this. You don't own or play SH4 so how are you going to find a common ground to discuss issues on?

SimmerALPHA · 09-28-07, 03:15 AM

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That's well and good and what brings a lot of people to this particular genre. But again, how are you going to accomplish this? Do you have any machinima of your own to show from previous projects?

Nothing finalized as I never got anything of the ground. Never had enough support. But my scripts were always lauded by those who read them. It's not going to be about SH4 but about WWII and I know a lot about that so I'd call that a common ground. I'd be doing the screenwriting and other small stuff. The one doing the recording would have more power than me as he would director/cameraman.

Has there been any other SH4 machinima made by a group. Don't remember seeing it. That's what I'm trying to start. I'm not saying I need to be the leader. That would probably be the one doing the recording. And he/she obviously has the game

SteamWake · 09-28-07, 03:29 PM

Look for a video called "Blind mans tale" its for SH3 but is still a terrific project which has a charecter and story line.

DeepIron · 09-28-07, 04:53 PM

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But my scripts were always lauded by those who read them.

And where may these scripts be found?

SilentOtto · 09-28-07, 05:08 PM

Simmeralpha, I think your best bet would be to talk to Stabiz and if he agrees, write a script on those movies he did. They are good stuff, so just watch them and then narrate them to us, as the american skipper. Then maybe you could do more stuff together and bla bla.
So why not give it a try?

DeepIron · 09-28-07, 05:28 PM

SilentOtto has a good point/idea ... Perhaps if you were to write a script for an existing movie, you'd find more support and interest for your idea...

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 09-28-07, 05:50 PM

SH4 ? bah... if it had the undiscribable thing SH3 has i would love to play it...
but even stock SH3 is better IMHO

but i like the idea and would like to see how it turns out

ReallyDedPoet · 09-28-07, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

SH4 ? bah... if it had the undiscribable thing SH3 has i would love to play it...
but even stock SH3 is better IMHO

but i like the idea and would like to see how it turns out

Stock SH3 1.4b is as flat as a pancake

RDP

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09-27-07, 02:11 PM	#1
SimmerALPHA Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Anyone interested in SH4 machinima? Hello, Let me introduce myself first. My name's Stefan aka SimmerALPHA/Simmer1989. I just learned of SH4 and what a great game it is. I don't have it yet as my computer doesn't run it but I'll get it as soon as I upgrade my PC. Surfing around on YouTube I spotted some great SH4 videos made by people who also attend this site. I didn't know it was possible to make such good machinima (movies made with games) with SH4. It obviously has great graphics and some great moviemaking possibilities (free camera). So I started thinking how cool it would be to make a machinima movie or series about a US sub in the Pacific during WWII with SH4. Submarine movies/series are a very rare thing in machinima/conventional movies or series. And they always seem to be about U-Boats. I think the Pacific theatre was just as interesting if not more than the Atlantic. I've been watching these forums for a while and the I think a lot of people would like this idea. Most of you are real sub nuts and I could definately use your help (if anyone is interested). I might not own SH4 (yet) but the game has inspired me to read more about US subs during WWII. Those men where real heroes and it's a shame their role is so obscure (didn't know anything about the role of US subs in the Pacific theatre). So I chose the USS Tautog (SS-199) as the subject of my proposed series. Of all the subs it has one of the most varied service records I've ever seen. It transported agents, sank the highest number of ships (26!), was in Pearl Harbor at the time of the attack, participated in a simulated war patrol with another sub and much more. Variety is key in a series and the Tautog provides it. It's probably impossible to make it completly realistic so I'm basing the events in the series on the real thing but will obviously have to change some things to make it more thrilling or possible (SH4 won't do everything). The main character will be the captain. I don't know if it's possible to see the captain as a model. If not I think I'll write it so that we see it through his eyes. I hope you all like the idea and that a lot of you will want to help make this machinima series come true. I eagerly await your responses (obviously) P.S.: I'm posting this on the UBiSH4 forums as well. SimmerALPHA

09-28-07, 05:28 PM	#13
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SilentOtto has a good point/idea ... Perhaps if you were to write a script for an existing movie, you'd find more support and interest for your idea... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

09-28-07, 05:50 PM	#14
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	SH4 ? bah... if it had the undiscribable thing SH3 has i would love to play it... but even stock SH3 is better IMHO but i like the idea and would like to see how it turns out __________________ Gruß

09-27-07, 02:30 PM	#2
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Not to dump on your enthusement. Please get SHIV,we are making,& living our own movie every time we play the game. Perhaps a movie with the AI view,would be

09-27-07, 02:35 PM	#3
SimmerALPHA Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Movies are always made for others to can experience what they are missing out on. And believe me, if I had a PC that was powerful enough to run it, I'd be playing it right now. Alass €750 doesn't fall out the sky to often.

09-27-07, 04:02 PM	#7
SimmerALPHA Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've seen about all the SH4 videos on YouTube including stabiz's. I´ve seen Tordo562 and Jab´s work as well which was also amazing. When I see all those videos I miss one thing. Characters, a story. That´s what I´m trying to bring to table. I never imagined to be doing this on my own. That´s why I´m looking for help in a tight community as this. I´m getting a lot of positive response on the UbiSH4 site so I do know that people want to see it. I´m just trying to be a catalyst for this project. Trying to get all those people who would like to make SH4 machinima together and some great movies. There are plenty of people on these forums who don´t have SH4 (yet) but are sub nuts nonetheless. I find subs one of the most intriguing parts of WWII and these stories deserve to be told. I do have a dream, yes. But no one forfilled a big dream on his own. I never said that. Just want to emphasize that I would be writing the script not much more.

09-28-07, 03:29 PM	#10
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Look for a video called "Blind mans tale" its for SH3 but is still a terrific project which has a charecter and story line.

09-28-07, 05:08 PM	#12
SilentOtto Engineer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BF79 Posts: 209 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	Simmeralpha, I think your best bet would be to talk to Stabiz and if he agrees, write a script on those movies he did. They are good stuff, so just watch them and then narrate them to us, as the american skipper. Then maybe you could do more stuff together and bla bla. So why not give it a try?