Sampans... do you...

Tally Ho · 08-29-07, 08:28 PM

...blow them out of the water, or not?

I'm quite new to this game, and have a dilemma. I shall be sent to an area to look for merchant shipping, spend hours dodging aircraft and sighting nary a vessel...

...except for those picturesque little sampans.

I want to shoot... I want to run them down and open fire just to get something, ANYthing on the logbooks. And they may be the only thing in the South China Sea more archaic than my own beloved pig boat. Still ...

They're utterly unarmed.
They aren't flying the Japanese flag.
They're frickin' SAILBOATS, for God's sake!

I just can't bring myself to turn my guns on them. Am I doing my country a disservice by letting them sail on by? Hey... some of them have good fish which Cookie buys off of them for a few packages of smokes! A nice tunny beats the hell outta whatever else he has in the galley after 30 days at sea.

So I'd like to know... will I ever get penalized for sinking them? Will I ever get penalized for NOT sinking them? Do my fellow skippers with more patrols under their belts turn a cold, appraising eye toward their fragile wooden hulls and blaze away? Or do you enjoy fresh fish for dinner as much as I do?

Regards,
Captain Tally

Ducimus · 08-29-07, 09:44 PM

Quote:

They're utterly unarmed.
They aren't flying the Japanese flag.
They're frickin' SAILBOATS, for God's sake!

You forgot one,

Some carried radios reporting submarine sightings.

tater · 08-29-07, 09:58 PM

Some aren't unarmed

tater

woodstock74 · 08-29-07, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tally Ho

...blow them out of the water, or not?

I'm quite new to this game, and have a dilemma. I shall be sent to an area to look for merchant shipping, spend hours dodging aircraft and sighting nary a vessel...

...except for those picturesque little sampans.

I want to shoot... I want to run them down and open fire just to get something, ANYthing on the logbooks. And they may be the only thing in the South China Sea more archaic than my own beloved pig boat. Still ...

They're utterly unarmed.
They aren't flying the Japanese flag.
They're frickin' SAILBOATS, for God's sake!

I just can't bring myself to turn my guns on them. Am I doing my country a disservice by letting them sail on by? Hey... some of them have good fish which Cookie buys off of them for a few packages of smokes! A nice tunny beats the hell outta whatever else he has in the galley after 30 days at sea.

So I'd like to know... will I ever get penalized for sinking them? Will I ever get penalized for NOT sinking them? Do my fellow skippers with more patrols under their belts turn a cold, appraising eye toward their fragile wooden hulls and blaze away? Or do you enjoy fresh fish for dinner as much as I do?

Regards,
Captain Tally

Clear your conscience, they're radioing back your position, let them have it!

klmmicro · 08-29-07, 10:19 PM

I blow them up. It is good deck-gun practice and they are the enemy. They supply food and information and therefore are fair game.

Incubus · 08-29-07, 11:27 PM

They don't take a lot of cannon shells to sink. Send em to Davy Jones

Anyone else find it hilarious how a wooden sail-powered ship can explode in a Bruckheimer-esque fasion? What are those fishermen using for ballast...dynamite?! :hmm:

The_Pharoah · 08-29-07, 11:55 PM

you mean you don't use them as target practice?

tater · 08-30-07, 12:35 AM

The bog problem is that they are junks, and fishing boats (I'm not sure any are actually sampans).

What the game lacks are a few very small japanese ships that were very much legitimate targets. Barges, luggers, the sea trucks, etc.

All the above are <1000 tons.

The threat of air attack in the SWPA resulted in the shipping tot he front becoming distributed instead of concentrated in larger carriers. So convoys of barges, luggers, sea trucks, etc sailing at night, camoflaged on the coast during the day.

The current "sampans" have to fill the role of native craft as well as japanese shipping.

tater

razark · 08-30-07, 01:59 AM

Those fishie-marus are providing food and transport to the enemy. Furthermore, they are radioing my position to the fleet. They are legitimate targets of enemy shipping, and I have been ordered to carry out _unrestricted_ submarine warefare against Japan.

Besides, 20mm, 40mm, and 4.5" boom booms make me happy.

Tally Ho · 08-30-07, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Quote:

They're utterly unarmed.
They aren't flying the Japanese flag.
They're frickin' SAILBOATS, for God's sake!

You forgot one,

Some carried radios reporting submarine sightings.

Well, this and all of the other responses are certainly clearing my conscience regarding blasting the little fellas, though I'll miss my fresh fish dinners.

Is that radioing back of positions something that is reflected in-game, or just a bit of color borrowed from the real war? Not that it seems to make much difference, my position seems criscrossed every few daylight minutes by a plane any time I am within 300 miles of a Jap airbase, anything that might increase my chances of being sunk are worth knowing about (and sinking first!)

Regards,
Capt. Tally

bruschi sauro · 08-30-07, 02:26 AM

sink them all

RENEGADE-623 · 08-30-07, 02:57 AM

its not modeled in game, so what you do if you still want your food, get the food, and your cigarettes, then blow them out of the water

capt_frank · 08-30-07, 08:06 AM

They're toast...

SteamWake · 08-30-07, 08:55 AM

Save munitions and run em over :p

Schnee · 08-30-07, 09:08 AM

Usually I couldn't be bothered - sometimes it just brings an aircraft overhead.

But I try to use a .50 cal on them just to lighten that ammo load. What does everyone else use?

08-29-07, 08:28 PM	#1
Tally Ho Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The American Heartland Posts: 13 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Sampans... do you... ...blow them out of the water, or not? I'm quite new to this game, and have a dilemma. I shall be sent to an area to look for merchant shipping, spend hours dodging aircraft and sighting nary a vessel... ...except for those picturesque little sampans. I want to shoot... I want to run them down and open fire just to get something, ANYthing on the logbooks. And they may be the only thing in the South China Sea more archaic than my own beloved pig boat. Still ... They're utterly unarmed. They aren't flying the Japanese flag. They're frickin' SAILBOATS, for God's sake! I just can't bring myself to turn my guns on them. Am I doing my country a disservice by letting them sail on by? Hey... some of them have good fish which Cookie buys off of them for a few packages of smokes! A nice tunny beats the hell outta whatever else he has in the galley after 30 days at sea. So I'd like to know... will I ever get penalized for sinking them? Will I ever get penalized for NOT sinking them? Do my fellow skippers with more patrols under their belts turn a cold, appraising eye toward their fragile wooden hulls and blaze away? Or do you enjoy fresh fish for dinner as much as I do? Regards, Captain Tally __________________ Captain Tally's Current Command:

08-30-07, 02:57 AM	#12
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08-30-07, 09:08 AM	#15
Schnee Engineer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 209 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hmmm Usually I couldn't be bothered - sometimes it just brings an aircraft overhead. But I try to use a .50 cal on them just to lighten that ammo load. What does everyone else use?

08-29-07, 09:58 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Some aren't unarmed tater

08-29-07, 10:19 PM	#5
klmmicro Watch Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I blow them up. It is good deck-gun practice and they are the enemy. They supply food and information and therefore are fair game.

08-29-07, 11:27 PM	#6
Incubus Planesman Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 195 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They don't take a lot of cannon shells to sink. Send em to Davy Jones Anyone else find it hilarious how a wooden sail-powered ship can explode in a Bruckheimer-esque fasion? What are those fishermen using for ballast...dynamite?! :hmm:

08-29-07, 11:55 PM	#7
The_Pharoah Soundman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 142 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	you mean you don't use them as target practice?

08-30-07, 12:35 AM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The bog problem is that they are junks, and fishing boats (I'm not sure any are actually sampans). What the game lacks are a few very small japanese ships that were very much legitimate targets. Barges, luggers, the sea trucks, etc. All the above are <1000 tons. The threat of air attack in the SWPA resulted in the shipping tot he front becoming distributed instead of concentrated in larger carriers. So convoys of barges, luggers, sea trucks, etc sailing at night, camoflaged on the coast during the day. The current "sampans" have to fill the role of native craft as well as japanese shipping. tater

08-30-07, 01:59 AM	#9
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	Those fishie-marus are providing food and transport to the enemy. Furthermore, they are radioing my position to the fleet. They are legitimate targets of enemy shipping, and I have been ordered to carry out _unrestricted_ submarine warefare against Japan. Besides, 20mm, 40mm, and 4.5" boom booms make me happy.

08-30-07, 02:26 AM	#11
bruschi sauro Frogman Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florence Italy Posts: 307 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	sink them all

08-30-07, 08:06 AM	#13
capt_frank Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In the North Carolina Sticks Posts: 335 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They're toast...

08-30-07, 08:55 AM	#14
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Save munitions and run em over :p