Uboat front clasp

[Avatar]

Hello again,
I'm on my 9th patrol and I am wondering when the rest of my crew gets the Uboat Front Clasp. I may have missed the opportunity, as I assign medals and rank through SH3 Commander.
Is there a specific exp points or number of patrols that will "open" the uboat front clasp to give to the crew?
Thanks for the help.
PS. If I've missed this how do I give them the uboat front clasp.(The time is summer 1940, and I'm playing GXW1.03 loaded via SH3 Commander)

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Avatar

Hello again,
I'm on my 9th patrol and I am wondering when the rest of my crew gets the Uboat Front Clasp. I may have missed the opportunity, as I assign medals and rank through SH3 Commander.
Is there a specific exp points or number of patrols that will "open" the uboat front clasp to give to the crew?
Thanks for the help.
PS. If I've missed this how do I give them the uboat front clasp.(The time is summer 1940, and I'm playing GXW1.03 loaded via SH3 Commander)

SH3 will throw them at you from time-to-time, but please remember that in real life the U-boat Front Clasp was not established until 15 May 1944. As SH3Cmdr models itself off actual historical availability and award conditions, this means that you will not see the clasp available in SH3Cmdr until that date.

This is why, for those wanting historical medal and badge availability, it is recommended that they solely use SH3Cmdr to award medals and badges. Otherwise they'll have a crew of guys running around with clasps, German Crosses and U-boat badges in September 1939! If players don't want to observe historical availability, then they can continue to award through SH3 and ignore SH3Cmdr's subsequent suggestions.

[irish1958]

SH3 CMDR solves this and many more problems.
"Don't leave home (port) without it"

[AtlantikEel]

Originally Posted by JScones

SH3 will throw them at you from time-to-time, but please remember that in real life the U-boat Front Clasp was not established until 15 May 1944. As SH3Cmdr models itself off actual historical availability and award conditions, this means that you will not see the clasp available in SH3Cmdr until that date.

This is why, for those wanting historical medal and badge availability, it is recommended that they solely use SH3Cmdr to award medals and badges. Otherwise they'll have a crew of guys running around with clasps, German Crosses and U-boat badges in September 1939! If players don't want to observe historical availability, then they can continue to award through SH3 and ignore SH3Cmdr's subsequent suggestions.

I do use SH3 Commander, but in spite of this line (2=**This crewman has been awarded a U-Boat Front Clasp, however, the clasp was not established until 15 May 1944. [02]) in the Sh3 Commander files, I received the Front Clasp in 1940!
SH3 Commander allows me to remove this medal from my crew if awarded too early, but not (as far as I can see) from my own career file.
Is there a way to change the award dates in the files, to ensure this medal is not awarded to me before the historical date?

In the SH3 folder (path: ProgramFiles/SH3/Data/CFG/Medals)I find the following:

[AWARDED_MEDAL_0]
Idx=0
Cantity=1

[AWARDED_MEDAL_1]
Idx=1
Cantity=2

[AWARDED_MEDAL_2]
Idx=2
Cantity=0

[AWARDED_MEDAL_3]
Idx=3
Cantity=0

[AWARDED_MEDAL_4]
Idx=4
Cantity=20

and

[MEDAL_0]
Idx=0
Cantity=1

[MEDAL_1]
Idx=1
Cantity=2

[MEDAL_2]
Idx=2
Cantity=0

[MEDAL_3]
Idx=3
Cantity=0

[MEDAL_4]
Idx=4
Cantity=20


etc., but I don't understand enough about CFG [Idx? Cantity?] to know if changing anything there would help.

Any ideas?

[JScones]

Originally Posted by AtlantikEel

Is there a way to change the award dates in the files, to ensure this medal is not awarded to me before the historical date?

No. There is no way to change medal/badge award dates to players in SH3 as SH3 is not programmed that way (maybe with the SDK :rotfl: - sorry, unrelated joke).

However, in some mods (like GWX, RUb, NYGM), the renown/tonnage required for such medals/badges is increased to "fudge" a later awarding date (and in some instances decreased for the opposite reason), but that's the best we can do without coding changes. This change has the effect in that instead of getting the front clasp after sinking 5,000 tons (stock), you don't get it until you've sunk 60,000 tons (GWX and prolly others too)...which for some players is still after the first few patrols anyway.

And I didn't think it appropriate to "autofix" player medals in SH3Cmdr due to the confusion/annoyance/whatever that it may cause some players who like seeing copious amounts of medals everytime they sink a trawler.

[AtlantikEel]

Originally Posted by JScones

No. There is no way to change medal/badge award dates to players in SH3 as SH3 is not programmed that way (maybe with the SDK :rotfl: - sorry, unrelated joke).

However, in some mods (like GWX, RUb, NYGM), the renown/tonnage required for such medals/badges is increased to "fudge" a later awarding date (and in some instances decreased for the opposite reason), but that's the best we can do without coding changes. This change has the effect in that instead of getting the front clasp after sinking 5,000 tons (stock), you don't get it until you've sunk 60,000 tons (GWX and prolly others too)...which for some players is still after the first few patrols anyway.

And I didn't think it appropriate to "autofix" player medals in SH3Cmdr due to the confusion/annoyance/whatever that it may cause some players who like seeing copious amounts of medals everytime they sink a trawler.

Thankyou.
I wonder ... can I "fudge" it in the GWX files so that I only get this badge after 150,000 tons? :hmm: That might bring it in line with the historical date .....(the way I sail, anyway)

[JScones]

Originally Posted by AtlantikEel

I wonder ... can I "fudge" it in the GWX files so that I only get this badge after 150,000 tons? :hmm:

As an SH3Cmdr user, the best way is to open SH3Cmdr's "Static settings.cfg" file and edit the line:

MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=60000; TONNAGE, front clasp

to something like:

MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=150000; TONNAGE, front clasp

This will help.

NOTE: Do not edit Basic.cfg directly as the default SH3Cmdr setting of 60000 will simply replace your setting.

[Avatar]

Now this is weird!
dec. 1940, Just got back from a patrol inwhich I sank the Nelson and an Aux. Cruiser, and a few other ships, and when I returned to port I noticed my crew obtained medals. Went to awards section and there before my bewildered eyes was a Uboat Front clasp and a German cross in gold!!!
I gave the german cross in gold to my XO and then the clasp to my engine officer.
Thanks for all the info regarding sh3 cmdr and all the availability dates.
I now know that I didnt miss something.
thanks again.

[Lafferty]

Wow that was weird.