Conning towers post 1.3

pythos · 07-14-07, 03:35 PM

Ok, that really kicks it. It would seem the bug that does not allow conning tower upgrades is still present even after 1.3.

I did an experimental carreer where I made one starting in 1942, at Brisbane, in an S-42 class boat.

Looking at the UPC files I found that the S-42 class's upgraded tower comes about in August 1942. I modified the flotilla start date to July 30 1042, as opposed to June 10.

I start the patrol and then end it. go back to base. No upgrade, the date is August 01, so I start the next patrol, and end it. Nice movie about how the war is going, but no upgrade. The date, August 30.

Try one more time. Once again no upgrade, but wow wee, it did keep track of my skipper's abysmal record, and retired him.

This conning tower thing has been a big sticking point for me, no one else here seems to care, which really suprises me.

I have tried to change the user player units data to no effect cause the moment I load up, it reverts back to the old data, which means there is a file in the game that keeps said info.

Does anyone here know how to manually up grade their tower, mid career?

CaptainCox · 07-14-07, 03:43 PM

Check this thread!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...92&postcount=1

hector · 07-15-07, 04:10 AM

I was hoping this was going to be sorted in 1.3 but apparently its not.
I also tried the tip in the link above just before the release of 1.3 but it didnt work for me.I had to edit quite a bit more for the new conn to appear and then i always got a ctd after about two days at sea so i just gave up.

Hector

Swat · 07-15-07, 04:17 AM

Never had a problems during my career.I already have fourth sub in my career.Didn't know the periods when the towers were changed but I was getting an improvements all the time,finally-I got new Balao class with that conning tower I was looking forward to.Haven't noticed any problem so far.

pythos · 07-15-07, 09:32 AM

This may be a problem with the sugar boats.

I also did a whole lot of file changing in order to get the towers up graded. Essentially I made a dummy carreer with the tower I wanted. Then exited the game, renamed the save some false name, and restored my current game. Went into the dummy game, found the active user unit UPC file, copied it. Went to my current game, and pasted that file into the current game. Went into the file, and assigned my boat's identification to the opening lines.

This was a heck of a lot more than what was stated in that thread that supposedly addressed the problem.

I got my tower, but I also have SD radar a tad earlier than I should.

I am a little miffed that UBI didn't just impliment a system that worked well, and that is the system in SH3 where you could choose if you got a new tower or not, as a stop gap for the failed update system the put into SH4

elanaiba · 07-15-07, 11:51 AM

New conning towers are only assigned during a refit. How do you get a refit? You roll one from time to time when returning to base.

So even if you're past the date of the conning tower update, your boat needs to get a refit to receive it.

Gunner · 07-16-07, 08:14 PM

It's not like SH3 where you can buy conning tower upgrades with renown points in the upgrade menue, Refit only, if you look in the sub upgrades file, there is nothing there for conning towers, I know that sucks, but hey ye get them free with a refit

or edit yer files like I did for my sugar boat, cause I hate bathtub towers

CaptainHaplo · 07-16-07, 08:30 PM

I released a small mod to solve this.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118592
Hope that solves the concern for some folks.

Ducimus · 07-16-07, 08:33 PM

That conning tower insignia, looks kinda familiar

Gunner · 07-16-07, 08:35 PM

Sweet

does your mod include S class as well ?

Gunner · 07-16-07, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

That conning tower insignia, looks kinda familiar

Yep, luv your mods an insignas for subs, guilty as charged also thanks to Belgian tutoral plasterd it over all sub towers

CaptainHaplo · 07-17-07, 07:29 PM

Gunner - yes it makes all the subs in game have their second "generation" conning tower. Except for the Balao - her late entry keeps it from being necessary. I could have left the Gato alone too, but I liked her 2nd gen tower alot better.

If you use it - just make sure you do so with a NEW campaign - in port or at sea the mod wont take.

Gunner · 07-18-07, 07:11 AM

Aye! Aye ! Captain Haplo, thanks for info, weill grab yer mod as well,

07-14-07, 03:35 PM	#1
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Conning towers post 1.3 Ok, that really kicks it. It would seem the bug that does not allow conning tower upgrades is still present even after 1.3. I did an experimental carreer where I made one starting in 1942, at Brisbane, in an S-42 class boat. Looking at the UPC files I found that the S-42 class's upgraded tower comes about in August 1942. I modified the flotilla start date to July 30 1042, as opposed to June 10. I start the patrol and then end it. go back to base. No upgrade, the date is August 01, so I start the next patrol, and end it. Nice movie about how the war is going, but no upgrade. The date, August 30. Try one more time. Once again no upgrade, but wow wee, it did keep track of my skipper's abysmal record, and retired him. This conning tower thing has been a big sticking point for me, no one else here seems to care, which really suprises me. I have tried to change the user player units data to no effect cause the moment I load up, it reverts back to the old data, which means there is a file in the game that keeps said info. Does anyone here know how to manually up grade their tower, mid career?

07-14-07, 03:43 PM	#2
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Check this thread! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...92&postcount=1 __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-15-07, 04:17 AM	#4
Swat 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Czech Republic Prague Posts: 286 Downloads: 224 Uploads: 0	Never had a problems during my career.I already have fourth sub in my career.Didn't know the periods when the towers were changed but I was getting an improvements all the time,finally-I got new Balao class with that conning tower I was looking forward to.Haven't noticed any problem so far. __________________ First Patrol Of U-21 Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqBqInzBaGc First Patrol Of U-21 Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWqyTaomDjM

07-15-07, 11:51 AM	#6
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	New conning towers are only assigned during a refit. How do you get a refit? You roll one from time to time when returning to base. So even if you're past the date of the conning tower update, your boat needs to get a refit to receive it. __________________ With strength I burn...

07-16-07, 08:14 PM	#7
Gunner Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 177 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It's not like SH3 where you can buy conning tower upgrades with renown points in the upgrade menue, Refit only, if you look in the sub upgrades file, there is nothing there for conning towers, I know that sucks, but hey ye get them free with a refit or edit yer files like I did for my sugar boat, cause I hate bathtub towers __________________

07-15-07, 04:10 AM	#3
hector Seaman Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 39 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	I was hoping this was going to be sorted in 1.3 but apparently its not. I also tried the tip in the link above just before the release of 1.3 but it didnt work for me.I had to edit quite a bit more for the new conn to appear and then i always got a ctd after about two days at sea so i just gave up. Hector

07-15-07, 09:32 AM	#5
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	This may be a problem with the sugar boats. I also did a whole lot of file changing in order to get the towers up graded. Essentially I made a dummy carreer with the tower I wanted. Then exited the game, renamed the save some false name, and restored my current game. Went into the dummy game, found the active user unit UPC file, copied it. Went to my current game, and pasted that file into the current game. Went into the file, and assigned my boat's identification to the opening lines. This was a heck of a lot more than what was stated in that thread that supposedly addressed the problem. I got my tower, but I also have SD radar a tad earlier than I should. I am a little miffed that UBI didn't just impliment a system that worked well, and that is the system in SH3 where you could choose if you got a new tower or not, as a stop gap for the failed update system the put into SH4

07-16-07, 08:30 PM	#8
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I released a small mod to solve this. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118592 Hope that solves the concern for some folks. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

07-16-07, 08:33 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	That conning tower insignia, looks kinda familiar

07-16-07, 08:35 PM	#10
Gunner Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 177 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Sweet does your mod include S class as well ? __________________

07-17-07, 07:29 PM	#12
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Gunner - yes it makes all the subs in game have their second "generation" conning tower. Except for the Balao - her late entry keeps it from being necessary. I could have left the Gato alone too, but I liked her 2nd gen tower alot better. If you use it - just make sure you do so with a NEW campaign - in port or at sea the mod wont take. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

07-18-07, 07:11 AM	#13
Gunner Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 177 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Aye! Aye ! Captain Haplo, thanks for info, weill grab yer mod as well, __________________