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rdhiggins · 07-12-07, 02:18 PM

Per the patch it states that the player can now request a speed estimate on a target as long as he has recently sent at least two range+bearing data sets. Keep in mind that the estimate needs to be sent to the TDC to be taken into account for the shot.

I performed this within the Torpedo Attack training exercise. (#4) I raised the scope, determined everything except for speed and clicked on the TDC. I did this twice and then clicked on the ID Target button.

Afterwhich I receive cannot compute speed for the target.

Also I noticed when I try to click on the Radar (using my mouse to click the button on) that it does nothing.

Is the Training Excercises still broke? Does the patch not affect those?

Thanks!

rdhiggins · 07-12-07, 02:29 PM

I noticed that the Radar did not work (or does nothing) when I click on the ON switch...... within a quick mission.

Is this possibly because of the year or sub?

Anvart · 07-12-07, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rdhiggins

I noticed that the Radar did not work (or does nothing) when I click on the ON switch...... within a quick mission.

Is this possibly because of the year or sub?

minsc_tdp · 07-12-07, 02:36 PM

Regarding speed estimate, I heard someone say you might have to unlock/re-lock the periscope when sending the 2nd range/bearing data to TDC, then maybe the speed estimate will work? Please let us know

AVGWarhawk · 07-12-07, 02:42 PM

I believe you need to have some time between each range and bearing reading.

tedhealy · 07-12-07, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by minsc_tdp

Regarding speed estimate, I heard someone say you might have to unlock/re-lock the periscope when sending the 2nd range/bearing data to TDC, then maybe the speed estimate will work? Please let us know

You do not need to unlock/relock. Just send the bearing/range twice, then you can esitmate the speed. That estimate will vary wildly with how accurate your range and aob are, and the time between when you update the bearing/range it would seem. I've had speed estimates be off by over 30 knots.

Set up the target info and send bearing/range. Wait a good amount time, the more the better, send bearing/range again. Now you can use the speed estimate.

John Channing · 07-12-07, 03:37 PM

And as long as your PK is running you do not even have to have the scope up.

This is a giant leap over the Sh3 system, or, as I like to think of it, the "HEY...HEY... I"M OVER HERE...SHOOT ME NOW" system of speed estimation.

JCC

Inside686 · 07-12-07, 04:04 PM

It works even if you keep the target locked BUT I noticed that when you lose contact with the target with the scope (you go under water) the measurements you did before are not kept in memory… strange since we send it to the tdc.
Anyway, those estimations help a lot when calculating a firing solution and you can check if the data (target's direction) you personally estimated are credible.

Inside686 · 07-12-07, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by minsc_tdp

That estimate will vary wildly with how accurate your range and aob are

Are you sure the AOB is taken into account for the speed calculation? IMO it's not.

LukeFF · 07-12-07, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Inside686

Are you sure the AOB is taken into account for the speed calculation? IMO it's not.

It's not. AOB really only comes into play when setting the final gyro angle needed for the torpedoes. The speed estimation is simply plotting two marks on a map, calculating the distance between the two and how much time has elapsed between making those two marks.

elanaiba · 07-12-07, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Inside686

It works even if you keep the target locked BUT I noticed that when you lose contact with the target with the scope (you go under water) the measurements you did before are not kept in memory… strange since we send it to the tdc.

The measurements are sent to the firing party, not the TDC. And they are not lost in the case you described.

azn_132 · 07-13-07, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by John Channing

This is a giant leap over the Sh3 system, or, as I like to think of it, the "HEY...HEY... I"M OVER HERE...SHOOT ME NOW" system of speed estimation.

JCC

Ha I lik dat.

LukeFF · 07-13-07, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by John Channing

And as long as your PK is running you do not even have to have the scope up.

This is a giant leap over the Sh3 system, or, as I like to think of it, the "HEY...HEY... I"M OVER HERE...SHOOT ME NOW" system of speed estimation.

Yep, it's a lot better now. Now we no longer need to take the ship's length, divide by the square root of 5 (during daylight hours only), add 6, and then round off to the nearest whole number in order to get a proper speed estimate. :rotfl:

Inside686 · 07-13-07, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

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Originally Posted by Inside686

It works even if you keep the target locked BUT I noticed that when you lose contact with the target with the scope (you go under water) the measurements you did before are not kept in memory… strange since we send it to the tdc.

The measurements are sent to the firing party, not the TDC. And they are not lost in the case you described.

Off course, but in the game to send the data to the firing party you have to send them to the TDC at the same time (with the red button)

I tried this two times:
-I took the range and sent it to the TDC
-Dropped the periscope for 20 seconds then rose it
-Took another range measurement and sent it again to the TDC.
So, I asked a speed estimation and the officer told me he hadn't enough data (such as if I did only ONE measurement and not TWO)

When I make the same procedure WITHOUT dropping the periscope, it works without any problem even unlocking the target between the two measurements.

John Channing · 07-13-07, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Inside686

Quote:

Originally Posted by elanaiba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inside686

It works even if you keep the target locked BUT I noticed that when you lose contact with the target with the scope (you go under water) the measurements you did before are not kept in memory… strange since we send it to the tdc.

The measurements are sent to the firing party, not the TDC. And they are not lost in the case you described.

Off course, but in the game to send the data to the firing party you have to send them to the TDC at the same time (with the red button)

I tried this two times:
-I took the range and sent it to the TDC
-Dropped the periscope for 20 seconds then rose it
-Took another range measurement and sent it again to the TDC.
So, I asked a speed estimation and the officer told me he hadn't enough data (such as if I did only ONE measurement and not TWO)

When I make the same procedure WITHOUT dropping the periscope, it works without any problem even unlocking the target between the two measurements.

Do you have the PK running on the target?

JCC

07-12-07, 02:18 PM	#1
rdhiggins Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 57 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	1.3 / Per the patch it states that the player can now request a speed estimate on a target as long as he has recently sent at least two range+bearing data sets. Keep in mind that the estimate needs to be sent to the TDC to be taken into account for the shot. I performed this within the Torpedo Attack training exercise. (#4) I raised the scope, determined everything except for speed and clicked on the TDC. I did this twice and then clicked on the ID Target button. Afterwhich I receive cannot compute speed for the target. Also I noticed when I try to click on the Radar (using my mouse to click the button on) that it does nothing. Is the Training Excercises still broke? Does the patch not affect those? Thanks!

07-12-07, 02:42 PM	#5
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rdhiggins Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 57 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I noticed that the Radar did not work (or does nothing) when I click on the ON switch...... within a quick mission. Is this possibly because of the year or sub?

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minsc_tdp XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 411 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Regarding speed estimate, I heard someone say you might have to unlock/re-lock the periscope when sending the 2nd range/bearing data to TDC, then maybe the speed estimate will work? Please let us know __________________ June 29 2016 - shSpeech v2.55 - Voice Command for Silent Hunter 4! View Thread

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John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	And as long as your PK is running you do not even have to have the scope up. This is a giant leap over the Sh3 system, or, as I like to think of it, the "HEY...HEY... I"M OVER HERE...SHOOT ME NOW" system of speed estimation. JCC

07-12-07, 04:04 PM	#8
Inside686 Seaman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lecco, LC, Italy Posts: 42 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	It works even if you keep the target locked BUT I noticed that when you lose contact with the target with the scope (you go under water) the measurements you did before are not kept in memory… strange since we send it to the tdc. Anyway, those estimations help a lot when calculating a firing solution and you can check if the data (target's direction) you personally estimated are credible.