Jap sailor rescue?????

C DuDe · 07-10-07, 06:30 AM

Hi Guy’s,

Did you notice that the Jap’s have no regards to Human life what so ever in SHIV….
After torp-ing a vessel when they see there’s nothing they can do and the ship is sinking they get in their lifeboats but after that…. The escort DD’s don’t even bother to rescue them.

I think that’s cruel so after a long cat and mouse game with the DD’s I go back to the location where the vessel sank and…. Well….euhmmm… do some target prac.

on them.
That way they don’t have to row all the way back to shore.

Seems like the most humane thing to do I presume.

Bando · 07-10-07, 06:33 AM

yeah.......right........

the_belgian · 07-10-07, 12:23 PM

...Although i once hit a BB with several torpedoes and while it was lying dead in the water a cruise came alongside as if he was taking over the crew.After 20 minutes next to the wounded BB he sailed back towards the taskforce,that both where part off,and disapered into the night.
I waited another 10 minutes(without torpedoes left)and then surfaced and finnished him(the BB)off without being shot at by him...

tater · 07-10-07, 12:46 PM

Gunning them down saves them for a horrible death by shark. You're doing them a favor.

Bando · 07-10-07, 03:10 PM

Yeah............right..........

joea · 07-10-07, 04:02 PM

No convoys, Allied or Axis, stopped to pick up survivors.

STEED · 07-10-07, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

Gunning them down saves them for a horrible death by shark. You're doing them a favor.

What sharks? I see no sharks.

Steel_Tomb · 07-10-07, 04:11 PM

Thats not true think of the Bismark etc they stopped to pick up survivors, only to flee on a u-boat alarm. Yes convoys didn't stop for guys in the water but warships did pick up people if it was considered safe.

TwistedFemur · 07-10-07, 04:30 PM

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The escort DD’s don’t even bother to rescue them.

Only foolish captains stop to pick up survivors from a ship that was just torpedoed

tater · 07-10-07, 05:03 PM

Actually, many convoys stopped to pick up survivors, the japanese did this all the time. There are many accounts of troopships packed with men, literally shoulder to shoulder, and the ship is sunk, yet many are saved by the other ships or the escorts.

bookworm_020 · 07-10-07, 06:25 PM

Richard O'Kane, Captain of the U.S.S. Tang, and his surviving crew, were rescued by the Japanese after the Tang went down.

They were also rescuing Japanese saliors as well.

sunvalleyslim · 07-10-07, 08:04 PM

As a Capt., I'm assuming that it would be a matter of if your ship is safe from attack. And you are Brave......You are Humane.....And you can do what's Right. But sometimes orders are orders as anyone who has been there knows............

Seagate · 07-11-07, 01:00 AM

Allied convoys: Each convoy had at least 1 or more merchants (depending on convoy size), assigned as rescue ship.
The rescue ship had to have a top speed higher than the speed of the convoy, be a low tonnage ship and carry cargo of a low war value.
Loved by all sailors except those serving on it.

Convoy rules in general, no one but the rescue ship may stop to pick up survivers, doing so might cost the captian his license, if not also the ship.
Early war especially the escorts was banned from picking up survivers, as they was already very limited in numbers, each and everyone it's weight worth in gold, later this change to a degree.

Japanese convoys: up to the convoy commander on what to do, which did lead to losses among escorts and merchants, when they turned into sitting ducks. Later in the war, manpower became an issue for the japanese so anyone rescued was worth a lot.

Troop transports and capital ships was a whole other ballgame. Most merchants had a crew of "only" 40-120 crew, in other words not worth the risk. But Capitals, cruisers and troop transports, here the number of people isn't so low, that you can effort to "ignore" them.

C DuDe · 07-11-07, 05:37 AM

Pore guy's..

you'd think with 3 DD's covering a convoy 1 of 'em might have a spear min to save them while the other 2 search for the dang Sub.. in game there's always 1 who isnt doing anything anyway.

It be a sport to have 3 DD's go after you.. give you a good wun for your money. Now it's easy to evade them or even torp them.

07-10-07, 06:30 AM	#1
C DuDe Ensign Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 229 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Jap sailor rescue????? Hi Guy’s, Did you notice that the Jap’s have no regards to Human life what so ever in SHIV…. After torp-ing a vessel when they see there’s nothing they can do and the ship is sinking they get in their lifeboats but after that…. The escort DD’s don’t even bother to rescue them. I think that’s cruel so after a long cat and mouse game with the DD’s I go back to the location where the vessel sank and…. Well….euhmmm… do some target prac. on them. That way they don’t have to row all the way back to shore. Seems like the most humane thing to do I presume.

07-10-07, 06:25 PM	#11
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Richard O'Kane, Captain of the U.S.S. Tang, and his surviving crew, were rescued by the Japanese after the Tang went down. They were also rescuing Japanese saliors as well. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

07-10-07, 08:04 PM	#12
sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	As a Capt., I'm assuming that it would be a matter of if your ship is safe from attack. And you are Brave......You are Humane.....And you can do what's Right. But sometimes orders are orders as anyone who has been there knows............ __________________ Crew member/ decommission member TM2(SS)(SD) 3/68-7/70 DIESEL BOATS FOREVER USS SEGUNDO (SS398)

07-10-07, 06:33 AM	#2
Bando Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Where you don't see me Posts: 607 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	yeah.......right........

07-10-07, 12:23 PM	#3
the_belgian Commander Join Date: May 2007 Location: a mile behind the sign"end of civilisation" Posts: 444 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	...Although i once hit a BB with several torpedoes and while it was lying dead in the water a cruise came alongside as if he was taking over the crew.After 20 minutes next to the wounded BB he sailed back towards the taskforce,that both where part off,and disapered into the night. I waited another 10 minutes(without torpedoes left)and then surfaced and finnished him(the BB)off without being shot at by him...

07-10-07, 12:46 PM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Gunning them down saves them for a horrible death by shark. You're doing them a favor.

07-10-07, 03:10 PM	#5
Bando Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Where you don't see me Posts: 607 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Yeah............right..........

07-10-07, 04:02 PM	#6
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	No convoys, Allied or Axis, stopped to pick up survivors.

07-10-07, 04:11 PM	#8
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thats not true think of the Bismark etc they stopped to pick up survivors, only to flee on a u-boat alarm. Yes convoys didn't stop for guys in the water but warships did pick up people if it was considered safe.

07-10-07, 05:03 PM	#10
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Actually, many convoys stopped to pick up survivors, the japanese did this all the time. There are many accounts of troopships packed with men, literally shoulder to shoulder, and the ship is sunk, yet many are saved by the other ships or the escorts.

07-11-07, 01:00 AM	#13
Seagate Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Allied convoys: Each convoy had at least 1 or more merchants (depending on convoy size), assigned as rescue ship. The rescue ship had to have a top speed higher than the speed of the convoy, be a low tonnage ship and carry cargo of a low war value. Loved by all sailors except those serving on it. Convoy rules in general, no one but the rescue ship may stop to pick up survivers, doing so might cost the captian his license, if not also the ship. Early war especially the escorts was banned from picking up survivers, as they was already very limited in numbers, each and everyone it's weight worth in gold, later this change to a degree. Japanese convoys: up to the convoy commander on what to do, which did lead to losses among escorts and merchants, when they turned into sitting ducks. Later in the war, manpower became an issue for the japanese so anyone rescued was worth a lot. Troop transports and capital ships was a whole other ballgame. Most merchants had a crew of "only" 40-120 crew, in other words not worth the risk. But Capitals, cruisers and troop transports, here the number of people isn't so low, that you can effort to "ignore" them.

07-11-07, 05:37 AM	#14
C DuDe Ensign Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 229 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Pore guy's.. you'd think with 3 DD's covering a convoy 1 of 'em might have a spear min to save them while the other 2 search for the dang Sub.. in game there's always 1 who isnt doing anything anyway. It be a sport to have 3 DD's go after you.. give you a good wun for your money. Now it's easy to evade them or even torp them.