Code Brown

Oberon · 06-27-07, 07:20 AM

So, here we go into the Brown age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Brown

P_Funk · 06-27-07, 07:29 AM

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He had said that he intends to strip Number 10 of some the powers conferred on it by royal prerogative, including the ability to declare war. Giving the parliament more powers and rights to vet and veto appointments to senior public positions in a bid to crack down on cronyism.

Me likes the sound of that, especially the whole 'declaration of war' stuff. Thats something that basically prevents one man dragging the country into a stink.

jumpy · 06-27-07, 09:00 AM

gah!

thiiiiings! can only get bett... sorry, the same.

Bring on the puns about 'brown noise'.
I can't say I'm pleased, given his track record on squeezing every last little drop of cash out of everyone that he could as chancellor of the exchequer, I'm expecting the same attitude as pm. I think what he did regarding taxing pensions was despicable; so on the whole I'm expecting everything to get alot more expensive across the board. From council tax to income tax and god help you if you drive a car.
That's just the money stuff.

I anticipate the same pc pandering fluff his predecessor was so bloody keen on, the steady erosion of liberty where it becomes more and more commonplace to have the law assume guilt and the onus will be transferred to the individual thereafter to prove their innocence instead of the law having to build a successful case against the individual to prove guilt. All this and more; diabolical mishandling of the nhs, endless comities peopled by magazine cut-outs who have no clearer perspective on reality than a jar of olives, deciding how the rest of us should live and pay taxes, more of that 'give to criminals' with laws that are a pointlessly ineffective result of knee jerk politics 'to be seen to be doing something about it' spin.

sickening business as usual then, for nu-labour.

As we all know never ever ever believe the crap that politicians spout at 'the beginning' (of anything) because they never deliver on what they promise and in some cases opt for the complete u-turn effect once they are nicely settled into their new political digs.

Konovalov · 06-27-07, 09:26 AM

The two words that the now Prime Minister Brown has kept using over the last few days including his speech in front of No.10 this afternoon have been "new" and "change". Do you get the feeling that Brown is trying to distance himself and the Labour Party from the Tony Blair legacy? :hmm:

The Avon Lady · 06-27-07, 09:37 AM

Haven't handled a code brown alert for several years now.

Oberon · 06-27-07, 09:48 AM

Lol, you read my mind AL

It's quite amusing, because at this current point in time....the UK doesn't have a government...does that mean we're in a state of anarchy?

QUICK!! Where's STEED?!!!

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Originally Posted by number-10.gov.uk

Prime Minister, First Lord of the Treasury and Minister for the Civil Service
The Rt Hon Gordon Brown MP
Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State

To be confirmed

Chancellor of the Exchequer

To be confirmed

Leader of the House of Commons, Lords Reform and Party Funding

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs

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Secretary of State for Trade and Industry

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Secretary of State for the Home Department

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Secretary of State for Health

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Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport

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Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, and Secretary of State for Wales

To be confirmed

Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Council

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Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice

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Secretary of State for International Development

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Secretary of State for Education and Skills

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Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government

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Secretary of State for Work and Pensions

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Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Defence

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Secretary of State for Transport and Secretary of State for Scotland

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Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury and Chief Whip

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Chief Secretary to the Treasury

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HunterICX · 06-27-07, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Haven't handled a code brown alert for several years now.

good grief, I just fell my lunch going up my throat...

Penelope_Grey · 06-27-07, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

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He had said that he intends to strip Number 10 of some the powers conferred on it by royal prerogative, including the ability to declare war. Giving the parliament more powers and rights to vet and veto appointments to senior public positions in a bid to crack down on cronyism.

Me likes the sound of that, especially the whole 'declaration of war' stuff. Thats something that basically prevents one man dragging the country into a stink.

I have to say its a very clever trick, even had me fooled for a second.

Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly...

P_Funk · 06-28-07, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly...

Its a subtle difference thats made it possible for the USA to not have actually been at war since WW2... officially. That the propoganda machines always spout "war" and even the politicians seems to make people forget how NOT at war they legally are.

I'm not sure though. Korea might or might not have been delcared. I heard it wasn't recently. I'll do some checking.

KevinB · 06-28-07, 03:35 AM

Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

robbo180265 · 06-28-07, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinB

Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

Love that song - as true then as it is now

DAB · 06-28-07, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly...

Its a subtle difference thats made it possible for the USA to not have actually been at war since WW2... officially. That the propoganda machines always spout "war" and even the politicians seems to make people forget how NOT at war they legally are.

I'm not sure though. Korea might or might not have been delcared. I heard it wasn't recently. I'll do some checking.

No war has been declared since 1939. War was declaired abhorrent and illegal by the United Nations which stated that actions in self defence are the only legitimate form of armed action. Since then, the world has been at peace

So, Korea and the 1991 Gulf War come under acts of collective security

The Falklands becomes the 1982 South Atlantic Crisis (The official UK name)

The 2003 Gulf War becomes an Act of Self Defence

And Vietnam... ...never happened.

robbo180265 · 06-28-07, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DAB

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly...

Its a subtle difference thats made it possible for the USA to not have actually been at war since WW2... officially. That the propoganda machines always spout "war" and even the politicians seems to make people forget how NOT at war they legally are.

I'm not sure though. Korea might or might not have been delcared. I heard it wasn't recently. I'll do some checking.

No war has been declared since 1939. War was declaired abhorrent and illegal by the United Nations which stated that actions in self defence are the only legitimate form of armed action. Since then, the world has been at peace

So, Korea and the 1991 Gulf War come under acts of collective security

The Falklands becomes the 1982 South Atlantic Crisis (The official UK name)

The 2003 Gulf War becomes an Act of Self Defence

And Vietnam... ...never happened.

Ahhh, history written by the victors - isn't it lovely

P_Funk · 06-28-07, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DAB

No war has been declared since 1939. War was declaired abhorrent and illegal by the United Nations which stated that actions in self defence are the only legitimate form of armed action. Since then, the world has been at peace

Love your wit.

06-27-07, 07:20 AM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Code Brown So, here we go into the Brown age. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Brown

06-27-07, 09:00 AM	#3
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	gah! thiiiiings! can only get bett... sorry, the same. Bring on the puns about 'brown noise'. I can't say I'm pleased, given his track record on squeezing every last little drop of cash out of everyone that he could as chancellor of the exchequer, I'm expecting the same attitude as pm. I think what he did regarding taxing pensions was despicable; so on the whole I'm expecting everything to get alot more expensive across the board. From council tax to income tax and god help you if you drive a car. That's just the money stuff. I anticipate the same pc pandering fluff his predecessor was so bloody keen on, the steady erosion of liberty where it becomes more and more commonplace to have the law assume guilt and the onus will be transferred to the individual thereafter to prove their innocence instead of the law having to build a successful case against the individual to prove guilt. All this and more; diabolical mishandling of the nhs, endless comities peopled by magazine cut-outs who have no clearer perspective on reality than a jar of olives, deciding how the rest of us should live and pay taxes, more of that 'give to criminals' with laws that are a pointlessly ineffective result of knee jerk politics 'to be seen to be doing something about it' spin. sickening business as usual then, for nu-labour. As we all know never ever ever believe the crap that politicians spout at 'the beginning' (of anything) because they never deliver on what they promise and in some cases opt for the complete u-turn effect once they are nicely settled into their new political digs. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

06-27-07, 09:26 AM	#4
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The two words that the now Prime Minister Brown has kept using over the last few days including his speech in front of No.10 this afternoon have been "new" and "change". Do you get the feeling that Brown is trying to distance himself and the Labour Party from the Tony Blair legacy? :hmm: __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

06-27-07, 09:37 AM	#5
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Haven't handled a code brown alert for several years now. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

06-28-07, 03:35 AM	#10
KevinB Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 195 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Meet the new boss same as the old boss.