What will you do if you were me?

DM6 · 06-26-07, 07:23 AM

Well, I have completed the quick mission - last target and after going back to the nearest port, I headed back to Japan.

Then, all of a sudden, two destroyers and a small gun boat appeared on my port side (perhaps I have speeded up the time too fast).

Anyway, I dived to periscope depth and fired three torpedoes to one destroyer. It took evasive action and all three hits missed. Then, the other destroyer charged towards me. I ordered crash dive and luckily avoided direct hit from the depth charges. I kept myself under 160ft and moved in 1/3 speed.

What will you guys do if the three ships have been following you for almost 45 minutes, during which they launched depth charges, and also travelling in the same direction I was going?

(Just a reminder: they travel faster, especially the destroyers, than I do. There is no way I can out run them in the water with the max speed at 7 knots)

Fish40 · 06-26-07, 07:51 AM

You've got quite a situation on your hands, being persued by three vessels! What you need to do to have any chance, is firstly try to dive until you reach a "Thermal Layer". Your crewmen usually announce when you arrive. The colder layer of water will help to deflect some of the sonar waves, and make detecting you alittle more difficult.

You also need to be in a state of "Silent Running". This will reduce your noise signiture to the listening ears above. Also try to show the smallest surface area to the destroyers. In other words, if the destroyer is pointing South and heading towards you, and you're pointing East/West, you've got your whole broadside exposed for the sonar waves to bounce off of. Try to orient yourself like the escort, to present a smaller, slimmer profile. Hope this helps alittle.

PepsiCan · 06-26-07, 07:59 AM

...when the destroyer passes overhead, go hard to port or starport. If there's only one, I would also accelerate as the destroyer cannot hear you because of its own baffles. But you're likely facing a scenario where one ship is listening and pinging for you while the other two are hunting for you.

STAY DEEP!!

switch.dota · 06-26-07, 08:11 AM

Run silent, run deep, use you hydrophones to determine where they are then try to move away. Don't go in one direction.

When I want to dodge DDs I go to test depth or even a little below, and run silent at 1 knot. I've yet to be sunk like that and I employ it every time I have to evade a DD, such as after an attack on a convoy/TF.

SteamWake · 06-26-07, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DM6

(Just a reminder: they travel faster, especially the destroyers, than I do. There is no way I can out run them in the water with the max speed at 7 knots)

First of all do not try to outrun them as you already know they are faster than you and all you do is make a ton of noise. Trying to run will just get you killed.

Dig for the thermal layer and when you reach it level off just below it set your speed at 1/3 (2 or 3 knots) order silent running and change your course.

Present a low aspect to the ships chasing you (rear end hopefully) and try to slip away.

It might take hours.

If you hear DC's going off a ways from you its a good thing as they dont have a fix on your position (yet).

If they do have a fix on you when a DD starts its DC run (signalled by suddenly accellerating at flank right at you) You go ahead all flank and order a hard turn to port or starbord. Hopefully he will miss and will be 'deaf' for a period of time. Once the commotion subsides order rudder amidships and slow to 1/3 again.

Again it might take hours to shake them.

This game requires alot of patience and stratigy at times.

ReallyDedPoet · 06-26-07, 10:09 AM

Welcome

DM6

RDP

wetwarev7 · 06-26-07, 10:20 AM

Since there are three ships, you should turn that to your advantage, if you can. If you can maintain a good idea of where everyone is(situational awareness?), and where everyone is headed, try to manuver in such a way as to use one ship to "pick off " another. The more time they have to spend avoiding each other, the less time they have to set up attack runs on you, and eventually you will be able to lose them.

Sometimes, it helps to run at flank speed, to draw them into a poor position so you can slip out the back while they are trying not to run into each other, then go to silent running again. Silent running is no help when they are allready pinging you.

Sailor Steve · 06-26-07, 10:25 AM

Go to 200 feet. Go to silent running. When one of them passes overhead go to flank speed, go to left or right full rudder and drop to 250 feet. When the depth charges start going off go back to silent speed and center the rudder. When it happens again do it all over, dropping to 300 feet. During the next attack come back up to 200. Never stay in one place. With any luck you'll soon hear them dropping further away. If the sound man reports "Depth charges in the water" but you don't hear their propellors, they're probably far enough away that they're dropping more for luck than because they actually have you.

Remember, just because you hear a ping doesn't mean they actually know where you are. Unless you hear them roaring overhead you're probably safe. Don't panic.

wetwarev7 · 06-26-07, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Don't panic.

This would probably be the number one rule.

When I first started playing SH3, I panicked once after hearing the "depth charges in the water" report (I was allready damaged), and tried to make a run for it, only to find that they were well behind me till I went to flank speed.

SteamWake · 06-26-07, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If the sound man reports "Depth charges in the water" .

Steve ! How in the heck ?

I guess my soundman is a slacker ! I have NEVER heard this call in SH4.

dean_acheson · 06-26-07, 11:37 AM

Um, I don't think that this works in SH4

mookiemookie · 06-26-07, 12:38 PM

It worked in SH3, but not in SH4. Remember that Steve hasn't gotten a chance to play SH4 yet.

daft · 06-26-07, 12:49 PM

I'd go as deep as I possibly could and slow to at least 1/3 speed (silent running if they keep following you) and start creeping away. As mentioned above, try to position yourself so as to present the smallest possible profile to any surface vessel searching for you. Depth is life as long as your boat is capable of deep dives. The evasion part can be terrifying, but it's one of the best parts of the game if you're faced with a persistent opponent. Good luck!

AVGWarhawk · 06-26-07, 01:02 PM

Surface and duke it out with the deck gun

. Show em you da man

SteamWake · 06-26-07, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Surface and duke it out with the deck gun

. Show em you da man

LMAO :p better yet... ram them ! That seems to work.

06-26-07, 07:23 AM	#1
DM6 Nub Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What will you do if you were me? Well, I have completed the quick mission - last target and after going back to the nearest port, I headed back to Japan. Then, all of a sudden, two destroyers and a small gun boat appeared on my port side (perhaps I have speeded up the time too fast). Anyway, I dived to periscope depth and fired three torpedoes to one destroyer. It took evasive action and all three hits missed. Then, the other destroyer charged towards me. I ordered crash dive and luckily avoided direct hit from the depth charges. I kept myself under 160ft and moved in 1/3 speed. What will you guys do if the three ships have been following you for almost 45 minutes, during which they launched depth charges, and also travelling in the same direction I was going? (Just a reminder: they travel faster, especially the destroyers, than I do. There is no way I can out run them in the water with the max speed at 7 knots)

06-26-07, 07:59 AM	#3
PepsiCan Planesman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 189 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	and... ...when the destroyer passes overhead, go hard to port or starport. If there's only one, I would also accelerate as the destroyer cannot hear you because of its own baffles. But you're likely facing a scenario where one ship is listening and pinging for you while the other two are hunting for you. STAY DEEP!! __________________ =================== AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.1Ghz 1Gb RAM MSI NVidia 6800 128MB MSI motherboard Realtek soundcard Windows XP Pro SP2 ===================

06-26-07, 10:09 AM	#6
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,886 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Welcome DM6 RDP __________________ Back in the Day

06-26-07, 10:20 AM	#7
wetwarev7 Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Deep Waters Posts: 871 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Since there are three ships, you should turn that to your advantage, if you can. If you can maintain a good idea of where everyone is(situational awareness?), and where everyone is headed, try to manuver in such a way as to use one ship to "pick off " another. The more time they have to spend avoiding each other, the less time they have to set up attack runs on you, and eventually you will be able to lose them. Sometimes, it helps to run at flank speed, to draw them into a poor position so you can slip out the back while they are trying not to run into each other, then go to silent running again. Silent running is no help when they are allready pinging you. __________________ Guess I should change my sig since SH5 has an offline mode now

06-26-07, 10:25 AM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Go to 200 feet. Go to silent running. When one of them passes overhead go to flank speed, go to left or right full rudder and drop to 250 feet. When the depth charges start going off go back to silent speed and center the rudder. When it happens again do it all over, dropping to 300 feet. During the next attack come back up to 200. Never stay in one place. With any luck you'll soon hear them dropping further away. If the sound man reports "Depth charges in the water" but you don't hear their propellors, they're probably far enough away that they're dropping more for luck than because they actually have you. Remember, just because you hear a ping doesn't mean they actually know where you are. Unless you hear them roaring overhead you're probably safe. Don't panic. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-26-07, 07:51 AM	#2
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	You've got quite a situation on your hands, being persued by three vessels! What you need to do to have any chance, is firstly try to dive until you reach a "Thermal Layer". Your crewmen usually announce when you arrive. The colder layer of water will help to deflect some of the sonar waves, and make detecting you alittle more difficult. You also need to be in a state of "Silent Running". This will reduce your noise signiture to the listening ears above. Also try to show the smallest surface area to the destroyers. In other words, if the destroyer is pointing South and heading towards you, and you're pointing East/West, you've got your whole broadside exposed for the sonar waves to bounce off of. Try to orient yourself like the escort, to present a smaller, slimmer profile. Hope this helps alittle.

06-26-07, 08:11 AM	#4
switch.dota Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 492 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Run silent, run deep, use you hydrophones to determine where they are then try to move away. Don't go in one direction. When I want to dodge DDs I go to test depth or even a little below, and run silent at 1 knot. I've yet to be sunk like that and I employ it every time I have to evade a DD, such as after an attack on a convoy/TF.

06-26-07, 11:37 AM	#11
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Um, I don't think that this works in SH4

06-26-07, 12:38 PM	#12
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	It worked in SH3, but not in SH4. Remember that Steve hasn't gotten a chance to play SH4 yet. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

06-26-07, 12:49 PM	#13
daft Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 493 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I'd go as deep as I possibly could and slow to at least 1/3 speed (silent running if they keep following you) and start creeping away. As mentioned above, try to position yourself so as to present the smallest possible profile to any surface vessel searching for you. Depth is life as long as your boat is capable of deep dives. The evasion part can be terrifying, but it's one of the best parts of the game if you're faced with a persistent opponent. Good luck! __________________ And God said: \"Let there be Narrowband!\"

06-26-07, 01:02 PM	#14
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Surface and duke it out with the deck gun. Show em you da man __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road