[TEC] Imperial units?

GOZO · 06-26-07, 06:23 AM

Hi!

Just a question since I find it somewhat difficult to trace nowdays but I remember it being an issue.

Q; :hmm:

If choosing "Imperial Units" when setting up SHIV, are all the previous faults fixed?

I refer to things like;

-Torpedo running depth settings
-Mast height
-Distance (Stadiameter/Sonar)
- etc etc...

I am currently running "Real Fleetboat1.28"

Cheers

/PB

nomad_delta · 06-26-07, 10:33 AM

I'm running with Imperial settings myself, and here's what I've found:

1. Torpedo running depth settings
On Imperial, the torpedo 'depth' meter operates in FEET, and does appear to work correctly. However, many of the ship 'draft' values listed in both the in-game and in-manual recognition manuals are wildly inaccurate. I've verified this with extensive testing. I've also heard it stated that the game models torpedos running 10-15ft deeper than you actually set up until mid-1943 to reflect real-world problems with the depth calibrations. I haven't verified that with my own testing yet, though.

2. Mast height
This is definitely still screwed up on Imperial as of patch 1.2 -- supposedly it's on their list of things to fix for the next patch. Luckily the wonderful modders here have done some amazing work to correct the problem in the meantime. I use CapnScurvy's "Imperial Range Correction" mod on top of RFB 1.28 and have found my accuracy at range much improved. Highly recommend it. You can check it out, here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...imperial+range

3. Distance (Stadiameter/Sonar)
I'm fairly certain that as long as you have the correct mast height, the stadimeter will then show you the correct range in yards. As for the sonar, from the very limited testing I've done it seems that the sonar man correctly reports ranges in yards when Imperial is enabled, but the visual dial readout of the sonar still reports ranges in meters! (Confusing, huh? Improving the sonar/hydrophone station usability is on the list for the 1.3 patch as well...)

Anyway, hope that helps a bit. Good luck!

nomad_delta

GOZO · 06-28-07, 06:44 AM

Thanks matey!

Saw the other thread today with your listed test results. Very impressive.

I am a complete "manual targetting maniac" and with a by now working SHIII I find the SHIV a 'little frustrating'

.

Cheers and thanks for the link

/Per

FoddaUK · 06-29-07, 04:14 AM

Lack of any sort of Imperial measure consensus here is the thing that's stopped me playing SH4 for the last couple of months. Just too much like hard work, and sailing a yank sub and talking of kilometres and metres is intensely annoying.

06-26-07, 06:23 AM	#1
GOZO Commander Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Linkoping, Sweden Posts: 479 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 0	[TEC] Imperial units? Hi! Just a question since I find it somewhat difficult to trace nowdays but I remember it being an issue. Q; :hmm: If choosing "Imperial Units" when setting up SHIV, are all the previous faults fixed? I refer to things like; -Torpedo running depth settings -Mast height -Distance (Stadiameter/Sonar) - etc etc... I am currently running "Real Fleetboat1.28" Cheers /PB __________________ SHIV:TMo 2.5, RSRD, SCAF OLC, Ralle's modpack SHIV: WDAD, Med Campaign SHIII: GWX3 GOLD, OLCII Gold, ACM-reloaded interface mod, SHIIIcmndr 3.2, Full Realism/DiD SHIII: LSH3 2015 Cold Waters with all bells and whistles Finally SHV but still unmodded and still a noob....

06-28-07, 06:44 AM	#3
GOZO Commander Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Linkoping, Sweden Posts: 479 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 0	Thanks matey! Saw the other thread today with your listed test results. Very impressive. I am a complete "manual targetting maniac" and with a by now working SHIII I find the SHIV a 'little frustrating' . Cheers and thanks for the link /Per __________________ SHIV:TMo 2.5, RSRD, SCAF OLC, Ralle's modpack SHIV: WDAD, Med Campaign SHIII: GWX3 GOLD, OLCII Gold, ACM-reloaded interface mod, SHIIIcmndr 3.2, Full Realism/DiD SHIII: LSH3 2015 Cold Waters with all bells and whistles Finally SHV but still unmodded and still a noob....

06-26-07, 10:33 AM	#2
nomad_delta Planesman Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 185 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I'm running with Imperial settings myself, and here's what I've found: 1. Torpedo running depth settings On Imperial, the torpedo 'depth' meter operates in FEET, and does appear to work correctly. However, many of the ship 'draft' values listed in both the in-game and in-manual recognition manuals are wildly inaccurate. I've verified this with extensive testing. I've also heard it stated that the game models torpedos running 10-15ft deeper than you actually set up until mid-1943 to reflect real-world problems with the depth calibrations. I haven't verified that with my own testing yet, though. 2. Mast height This is definitely still screwed up on Imperial as of patch 1.2 -- supposedly it's on their list of things to fix for the next patch. Luckily the wonderful modders here have done some amazing work to correct the problem in the meantime. I use CapnScurvy's "Imperial Range Correction" mod on top of RFB 1.28 and have found my accuracy at range much improved. Highly recommend it. You can check it out, here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...imperial+range 3. Distance (Stadiameter/Sonar) I'm fairly certain that as long as you have the correct mast height, the stadimeter will then show you the correct range in yards. As for the sonar, from the very limited testing I've done it seems that the sonar man correctly reports ranges in yards when Imperial is enabled, but the visual dial readout of the sonar still reports ranges in meters! (Confusing, huh? Improving the sonar/hydrophone station usability is on the list for the 1.3 patch as well...) Anyway, hope that helps a bit. Good luck! nomad_delta

06-29-07, 04:14 AM	#4
FoddaUK Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 52 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Lack of any sort of Imperial measure consensus here is the thing that's stopped me playing SH4 for the last couple of months. Just too much like hard work, and sailing a yank sub and talking of kilometres and metres is intensely annoying.