So what did UBI get right?

[wetwarev7]

You know, I was under the impression that subsim.com was a place for people to gather who enjoyed sub/naval simulators, etc.. A place to discuss and make great games better.

I understand some of the disappointment surrounding SH4(I have the same game as everyone else), but it has gotten to a point that seems very much like beating a dead horse. With this in mind, I would like to start a thread focused on what we LIKE about SH4 and what UBI got right.

What I like about SH4:

1. Crew management. I think this is a definate improvement over SH3.
2. The graphics. (of course) Water looks better, the sub textures, etc look great. Explosions and smoke and beaches! oh my!
3. The career mission generator. I really love the fact that my mission goals include more than just 'patrol grid xxx'.
4. Playing from the American side of things. A nice change from the lovable yet overdone(a little bit) U-boats.
5. Crewmen walking the decks of the ships I am about to sink. I actually worry about them, and wonder who they leave behind.
6. The liferafts after I sink said ships. The poor souls who escape my AA gun only to become shark bait later on.
7. The harbours are populated with ships and seem alive with land-based animations(even more deckgun targets :p )
8. Underwater plants and rocks. I like 'em.

What do YOU like about SH4?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

I understand some of the disappointment surrounding SH4(I have the same game as everyone else), but it has gotten to a point that seems very much like beating a dead horse.

You got that right, in fact I was wondering if this thread was yet another SH4 bashing thread.

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

What I like about SH4:

1. Crew management. I think this is a definate improvement over SH3.
2. The graphics. (of course) Water looks better, the sub textures, etc look great. Explosions and smoke and beaches! oh my!
3. The career mission generator. I really love the fact that my mission goals include more than just 'patrol grid xxx'.
4. Playing from the American side of things. A nice change from the lovable yet overdone(a little bit) U-boats.
5. Crewmen walking the decks of the ships I am about to sink. I actually worry about them, and wonder who they leave behind.
6. The liferafts after I sink said ships. The poor souls who escape my AA gun only to become shark bait later on.
7. The harbours are populated with ships and seem alive with land-based animations(even more deckgun targets :p )
8. Underwater plants and rocks. I like 'em.

What do YOU like about SH4?

All of the above As well as there have been many mods that have enhanced the experience. With the 1.3 patch on its way I am staying optimistic that SH4 will be a hell of a game in time.

Nice thread.

RDP

[The General]

Yeah, your 'likes' focus mainly on the visuals. And I agree with your obseravtion that they are great, but so were the visuals in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, does that make them good movies?

[kikn79]

Originally Posted by The General

Yeah, your 'likes' focus mainly on the visuals. And I agree with your obseravtion that they are great, but so were the visuals in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, does that make them good movies?

Thank you for your input into this positive thread...


I like the gameplay. As I've said before, I have no problems with radar or CTDs or the lack of escort pursuit. With the fantastic modding community here, all those problems are fixed.

I agree with the missions (I've only had one "repeat" mission, and that was my own fault for not reporting it back to base) I really like that element of the game. It makes it so much more imersive for me. The thrill of sneaking past the harbor patrol to photograph a ship. The search for the poor zoomies that are now floating around the ocean somewhere. The hunt for the important target that is coming into my area. The challenge of getting close enough to a convoy to report it but not so close as to be detected. It's all a blast to me!!

I like patrolling the shipping lanes and trying to get into the middle of a convoy to wreak havoc. I like the challenge of getting through the destroyer screen of an enemy task force and attempting to take down some captial ships.

The visuals, while they may be nice, are not what does it for me. In fact, I have a crappy video card and can hardly enjoy them, so I stick with the 2D map station and occasionally the periscope. What really makes it for me is that I'm a WWII PTO junkie and getting a chance to "participate" in that operation is truely great fun.

Chuck

[The General]

Originally Posted by kikn79

Thank you for your input into this positive thread...

I was being realistic. Some of us have have higher standards than others.

[wetwarev7]

Originally Posted by The General

I was being realistic. Some of us have have higher standards than others.

I think what he was trying to say is that there are plenty of other threads where your comment would be more appreciated.

[kv29]

Originally Posted by The General

I was being realistic. Some of us have have higher standards than others.

well, you can spend your time critizicing SHIV for not complying "your" standards, or enjoying what it has to offer (knowing beforehand it will get better with the next patch)....

I do prefer the second.

[kikn79]

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

I think what he was trying to say is that there are plenty of other threads where your comment would be more appreciated.

Exactly. You don't even have to go past the first page to find a thread that would have been more appropriate for that kind of comment. And, considering the thread title, is quite OT.

<Edited to keep from having to put people in the Brig>

Chuck

[XLjedi]

Wow... interesting thread.

Forced me to actually sit back and think for a minute or two about something that I liked in SH4. :hmm:


I think we all can agree the new damage model is cool! I certainly prefer the gaping holes over black smudges...

[TDK1044]

What did they get right? They assigned the right Dev team and they continued the Silent Hunter franchise. When this game is patched to 1.3 and modded, it will be the best WWII subsim ever in my view.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

it will be the best WWII subsim ever in my view.

Never beat GWX. :p

A close second.

[The General]

Why don't you rename this thread the Ostrich thread on account of the amount of denial inherent? The most interesting thing to happen in this thread is me and I am now bored so it's downhill from here gentlemen. I'll leave you to sit around and gaze at each other's navals.

[TDK1044]

But GWX is a mod. SH4 would be better than SH3 GWX if the same time and effort was put into a supermod for SH4.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by The General

Why don't you rename this thread the Ostrich thread on account of the amount of denial inherent?

There are plenty of childish, moaning, ranting forums out there. Please feel free to join one.

[The General]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

But GWX is a mod. SH4 would be better than SH3 GWX if the same time and effort was put into a supermod for SH4.

It'll take more than a MOD to fix this sim.