When You Run Out of Fuel. What Next?

Mowinz · 06-13-07, 03:32 PM

It happened to me once a few months ago and since then I've been running with unlimited petrol. Now I'm planning to go closer to the full real game and was curious what happens when I'm in a career patrol and I run out of gas?

Is the game over?

Cheers

STEED · 06-13-07, 03:43 PM

No use your batteries but if your a long way from home it will take even longer to get home.

Go steady on the gas and keep an eye on it.

bigboywooly · 06-13-07, 03:56 PM

Rig sails
:rotfl:

I ask Onkel for a tow home but I usually get a an allied tug and destroyer escort

KeptinCranky · 06-13-07, 04:25 PM

you know, I've never played with unlimited fuel, I've never run out either and never done the "return to base" trick for fuel reasons. even when badly bombed and lost about 75% of my diesel in BF17 I got back to Willi in 1940. (did have to take some fairly hairy shortcuts though

)

The trick is to figure out your optimum economy speed and stick to it, set it manually, don't just order 1/3 speed, order 8 knots specifically, it doesn't matter if you're only actually making 6knots due to bad weather, as long as you order the correct speed. that also means no rushing about at flank to get that radio contact, no 200km legs at 14 knots to intercept the convoy earlier. think about what you're doing and plan ahead.

I only go above this speed when absolutely necessary for making an attack or evading warships

best fuel economy for various boats I've found

IIa no engine upgrades 6 knots
IIa with upgrades 7 knots
IId don't know
VII no upgrades 8 knots
VII with engine upgrade 9 knots
IXb/c no upgrades 9 knots
IXb/c with upgrade 10 knots
IXD2 don't know both times I left port with one of those I got bombed 100km out from Bordeaux and had to limp back home minus half the hull integrity and most of my diesel

hope that helps

danlisa · 06-13-07, 04:35 PM

Huge Game Bug!!

If you are using batteries only and you run out of charge, surface and hit TC. The batteries will magically recharge themselves.

KeptinCranky · 06-13-07, 04:51 PM

that's just wrong

I don't think I would exploit that unless I'm already within 100km of a friendly port. then it could be used to simulate a tow.

But think about how it looks, getting towed into port, hardly heroic. and Dontiz would give you a serious chewing out for being incompetent enough to squander all your diesel (emergencies are different of course)

siber · 06-13-07, 04:52 PM

Fuel's only been a problem for me in Type IIs. With Type VIIs I've always cruised at 8kts to/from action, unless I need to catch up a contact/convoy. With this system, I'm generally returning to base without any torpedoes before I've hit about 60% fuel level.

After taking damage, however, it's a different matter...

danlisa · 06-13-07, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

that's just wrong

I don't think I would exploit that unless I'm already within 100km of a friendly port. then it could be used to simulate a tow.

Yeah, I never use it either. Infact, I usually forget about it until someone asks.

I also really hate that it's not fixable.

Sailor Steve · 06-13-07, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

IIa no engine upgrades 6 knots
IIa with upgrades 7 knots
IId don't know
VII no upgrades 8 knots
VII with engine upgrade 9 knots
IXb/c no upgrades 9 knots
IXb/c with upgrade 10 knots
IXD2 don't know both times I left port with one of those I got bombed 100km out from Bordeaux and had to limp back home minus half the hull integrity and most of my diesel

hope that helps

It's time to resurrect one of my pet peeves: engine upgrades in SH3 are totally bogus. Unrealistic and wrong.

The Type VIIa had no superchargers, and never got any. Type VIIb and all later u-boats came stock with superchargers. The 'Unsupercharged' speeds in the game are the speeds they actually made with superchargers. The 'Supercharged/Upgraded' speeds are total fabrications; they never went that fast.

Question: there's a Type II upgrade? I didn't know that. I'm pretty sure no Type IIs ever had superchargers.

XLjedi · 06-13-07, 07:36 PM

Once I ran outta gas close to port and was able to finish on electric without cheating... that was cool.

One other time I ran outta gas way out there and I noticed the game did let me somehow recharge repeatedly and make it home (I assume using a makeshift solar array?)

Once I got DC'd off the coast of Spain and it damaged the rudder, I couldn't turn and I was pointed out to sea. I ended up beaching on the south end of Greenland to end my career, but we survived... Later it occured to me that engines are capable of running in reverse and my 2 week odyssey could've been ended in about 8 hours on a nice beach in Portugal.

Indiana_Jones · 06-13-07, 07:48 PM

what's TC?

-Indy

joegrundman · 06-13-07, 08:03 PM

It's not exactly the same thing, but once I had both rudders and one propeller blown off by a Wasserbomb in the firth of forth. Luckily I was facing due east and managed to evade several destroyers with just up and down controls, crawling along at 2knots underwater and 5 knots on the surface.

I got to the coast of denmark and really had to use return to base then. I figured that that would count as a legitimate rescue, having already gotten to friendly waters.

However, the weather was good. I would have had my crew sitting on the deck using planks of wood to steer the thing for Willhelmshaven. Needs to be included as a command in SH5: Hedgehogs of the Atlantic, i think.

joegrundman · 06-13-07, 08:07 PM

TC= time compression

Indiana_Jones · 06-13-07, 08:25 PM

ah, cheers

-Indy

TarJak · 06-13-07, 08:43 PM

You can always hit ESC and sail back to port on the magic teleporter that BDU has installed for your convenience.:rotfl:

Or you could radio your position until a passing KM ship comes by to lend you some diesel.

06-13-07, 03:32 PM	#1
Mowinz Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 100 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	When You Run Out of Fuel. What Next? It happened to me once a few months ago and since then I've been running with unlimited petrol. Now I'm planning to go closer to the full real game and was curious what happens when I'm in a career patrol and I run out of gas? Is the game over? Cheers

06-13-07, 03:43 PM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	No use your batteries but if your a long way from home it will take even longer to get home. Go steady on the gas and keep an eye on it. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

06-13-07, 03:56 PM	#3
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Rig sails :rotfl: I ask Onkel for a tow home but I usually get a an allied tug and destroyer escort __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

06-13-07, 04:25 PM	#4
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	you know, I've never played with unlimited fuel, I've never run out either and never done the "return to base" trick for fuel reasons. even when badly bombed and lost about 75% of my diesel in BF17 I got back to Willi in 1940. (did have to take some fairly hairy shortcuts though) The trick is to figure out your optimum economy speed and stick to it, set it manually, don't just order 1/3 speed, order 8 knots specifically, it doesn't matter if you're only actually making 6knots due to bad weather, as long as you order the correct speed. that also means no rushing about at flank to get that radio contact, no 200km legs at 14 knots to intercept the convoy earlier. think about what you're doing and plan ahead. I only go above this speed when absolutely necessary for making an attack or evading warships best fuel economy for various boats I've found IIa no engine upgrades 6 knots IIa with upgrades 7 knots IId don't know VII no upgrades 8 knots VII with engine upgrade 9 knots IXb/c no upgrades 9 knots IXb/c with upgrade 10 knots IXD2 don't know both times I left port with one of those I got bombed 100km out from Bordeaux and had to limp back home minus half the hull integrity and most of my diesel hope that helps

06-13-07, 04:35 PM	#5
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Huge Game Bug!! If you are using batteries only and you run out of charge, surface and hit TC. The batteries will magically recharge themselves. __________________

06-13-07, 04:51 PM	#6
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	that's just wrong I don't think I would exploit that unless I'm already within 100km of a friendly port. then it could be used to simulate a tow. But think about how it looks, getting towed into port, hardly heroic. and Dontiz would give you a serious chewing out for being incompetent enough to squander all your diesel (emergencies are different of course)

06-13-07, 04:52 PM	#7
siber Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salford, Manchester, UK Posts: 182 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Fuel's only been a problem for me in Type IIs. With Type VIIs I've always cruised at 8kts to/from action, unless I need to catch up a contact/convoy. With this system, I'm generally returning to base without any torpedoes before I've hit about 60% fuel level. After taking damage, however, it's a different matter... __________________ Using GWX 3.0 at 100% realism, OLC's 'Ubermod' & Torpdamagefinal

06-13-07, 07:36 PM	#10
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	Once I ran outta gas close to port and was able to finish on electric without cheating... that was cool. One other time I ran outta gas way out there and I noticed the game did let me somehow recharge repeatedly and make it home (I assume using a makeshift solar array?) Once I got DC'd off the coast of Spain and it damaged the rudder, I couldn't turn and I was pointed out to sea. I ended up beaching on the south end of Greenland to end my career, but we survived... Later it occured to me that engines are capable of running in reverse and my 2 week odyssey could've been ended in about 8 hours on a nice beach in Portugal.

06-13-07, 07:48 PM	#11
Indiana_Jones Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 126 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	what's TC? -Indy

06-13-07, 08:03 PM	#12
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	It's not exactly the same thing, but once I had both rudders and one propeller blown off by a Wasserbomb in the firth of forth. Luckily I was facing due east and managed to evade several destroyers with just up and down controls, crawling along at 2knots underwater and 5 knots on the surface. I got to the coast of denmark and really had to use return to base then. I figured that that would count as a legitimate rescue, having already gotten to friendly waters. However, the weather was good. I would have had my crew sitting on the deck using planks of wood to steer the thing for Willhelmshaven. Needs to be included as a command in SH5: Hedgehogs of the Atlantic, i think. __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

06-13-07, 08:07 PM	#13
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	TC= time compression __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

06-13-07, 08:25 PM	#14
Indiana_Jones Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 126 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	ah, cheers -Indy

06-13-07, 08:43 PM	#15
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	You can always hit ESC and sail back to port on the magic teleporter that BDU has installed for your convenience.:rotfl: Or you could radio your position until a passing KM ship comes by to lend you some diesel.