Shivering Isles

Skybird · 04-11-07, 04:22 PM

Anyone having experience with it? What do you think - worth to invest money into it when one has loved Oblivion?

And how big is the world, compared to the Oblivion outside world? I admit that is the main attraction for me.

gdogghenrikson · 04-11-07, 07:25 PM

I have it and it is ok...its main quest is about 10 hours....But there is a save game bug I here about that causes your items and NPC's to dissapaere

Tikigod · 04-12-07, 12:44 AM

I'd hold off on it. Its still somewhat buggy. There is some kinda FormID bug that causes you to lose items and corrupts your save game. (But, I think it only effects people with large inventories or games with 100 hours or more) Bethesda is telling everyone to back up there save games and prepare for a full reinstall when the full patch comes out. Plus alot of the really cool mods out there are still updating to be used with it. I use about 30-50 mods to oblivion and they add alot of great features to the game. I'd hate to jump into shivering isles without them.

Right now they released a temp fix until the full patch is released:
http://www.elderscrolls.com/download...es_patches.htm

You can read about it here:
http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675905

here:
http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675741

here:
http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675889

and here:
http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675953

Skybird · 04-12-07, 04:55 AM

Good to hear about that patch issue, I hate to buy games these days that have serious issues. will keep an eye on future developement. Would be nice to have a new landscape to explore.

How big is the surface landscape, compared to that of Oblivion? Same size? Half size? A quarter only?

Tikigod · 04-12-07, 12:57 PM

Not sure...It looks like it is 1/4.

Here is ingame map:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

How big is the surface landscape, compared to that of Oblivion? Same size? Half size? A quarter only?

Skybird · 04-12-07, 02:08 PM

Well, 1/4 is 1/4 that I still do not know.

NeonSamurai · 04-12-07, 03:09 PM

Ya im going through all my mods one by one, updating, getting rid of obselete ones etc.. this is day 2 of doing that

probably at least another 2-3 days to go (after me testing, discarding and tweeking etc)

Tikigod · 04-12-07, 03:33 PM

Well, I would assume the maps are to scale given the icon size (which is a standard to go by) and SI being the same engine as oblivion. They wouldn't rescale distances in an already built game. Your arrow icon will travel the same distance at the same rate on either map.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Well, 1/4 is 1/4 that I still do not know.

Tikigod · 04-12-07, 06:07 PM

Here is more Shivering Isles drama..........

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=676293

and what seems to be the problem.........

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=674324

Skybird · 04-12-07, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tikigod

Well, I would assume the maps are to scale given the icon size (which is a standard to go by) and SI being the same engine as oblivion. They wouldn't rescale distances in an already built game. Your arrow icon will travel the same distance at the same rate on either map.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Well, 1/4 is 1/4 that I still do not know.

Ehem, that was just a joke of mine, but I probably messed it up verbally. I meant that even the smaller land is still a land that I do not know.

25% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

Tikigod · 04-13-07, 10:17 AM

Quick question: Does Oblivion Mod Manager's load order go from top to bottom? or bottom to top? I was installing mods with base files on the bottom and installing mods on top of those. But, now that I am reading more on forums it seems the base files go to the top of the list. The wikis talk about load orders but, they don't tell you specifically which direction they go (other than by default they are installed alphabetically)

EDIT: found the answer:

From the Mod Manager Help File:

Quote:

The esp list: The left hand panel contains a list of all active esps. They are listed in oblivion load order, with the top mod in the list loading first and the bottom last. When mods conflict, the mod which loads last gets the final say. (i.e. mods towards to bottom of the list will override mods above them.)

Tikigod · 04-13-07, 06:31 PM

There seems to be confusion about the install order of the latest patches since the 1.2 patch has been released and causes install error messages with shivering isles 1.2 patch. So, I thought I would post the install order here to clarify.

1) install oblivion off its DVD
2) install knights of the nine
3) install all of the knights of the nine add-ons - eg: the orrey etc
4) install Shivering Isles from its DVD (the game is updated to v1.2.0.201 at this point - no need to update it prior to this)
5) install the Shivering Isles V1.2.410 BETA patch

This was posted here:
http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=676898

Radtgaeb · 05-05-07, 11:16 PM

Just bought it, but haven't got a chance to install. A little worried due to the complaints....but Bethesda has always been good to me. Call me a geek, but I've loved all of their RPG's from Arena to Oblivion, and I even quite enjoy their new Star Trek games.

Skybird · 05-26-07, 04:52 PM

Asking for an update on status concerning problems and patches? Is it safe now to install it, or must I still expect problems?

Ubergeek87 · 05-26-07, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Asking for an update on status concerning problems and patches? Is it safe now to install it, or must I still expect problems?

Its safe to install now, just make sure you get the 1.2 patch. It can be found here.

04-11-07, 04:22 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Shivering Isles Anyone having experience with it? What do you think - worth to invest money into it when one has loved Oblivion? And how big is the world, compared to the Oblivion outside world? I admit that is the main attraction for me. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-11-07, 07:25 PM	#2
gdogghenrikson Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 978 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I have it and it is ok...its main quest is about 10 hours....But there is a save game bug I here about that causes your items and NPC's to dissapaere __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

04-12-07, 12:44 AM	#3
Tikigod Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 777 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I'd hold off on it. Its still somewhat buggy. There is some kinda FormID bug that causes you to lose items and corrupts your save game. (But, I think it only effects people with large inventories or games with 100 hours or more) Bethesda is telling everyone to back up there save games and prepare for a full reinstall when the full patch comes out. Plus alot of the really cool mods out there are still updating to be used with it. I use about 30-50 mods to oblivion and they add alot of great features to the game. I'd hate to jump into shivering isles without them. Right now they released a temp fix until the full patch is released: http://www.elderscrolls.com/download...es_patches.htm You can read about it here: http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675905 here: http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675741 here: http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675889 and here: http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=675953 __________________ My Current Mod Contributions for SHIII Last edited by Tikigod; 04-12-07 at 03:29 PM.

04-12-07, 04:55 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Good to hear about that patch issue, I hate to buy games these days that have serious issues. will keep an eye on future developement. Would be nice to have a new landscape to explore. How big is the surface landscape, compared to that of Oblivion? Same size? Half size? A quarter only? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-12-07, 02:08 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well, 1/4 is 1/4 that I still do not know. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-12-07, 03:09 PM	#7
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Ya im going through all my mods one by one, updating, getting rid of obselete ones etc.. this is day 2 of doing that probably at least another 2-3 days to go (after me testing, discarding and tweeking etc) __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

04-12-07, 06:07 PM	#9
Tikigod Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 777 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Here is more Shivering Isles drama.......... http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=676293 and what seems to be the problem......... http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=674324 __________________ My Current Mod Contributions for SHIII

04-13-07, 06:31 PM	#12
Tikigod Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 777 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	There seems to be confusion about the install order of the latest patches since the 1.2 patch has been released and causes install error messages with shivering isles 1.2 patch. So, I thought I would post the install order here to clarify. 1) install oblivion off its DVD 2) install knights of the nine 3) install all of the knights of the nine add-ons - eg: the orrey etc 4) install Shivering Isles from its DVD (the game is updated to v1.2.0.201 at this point - no need to update it prior to this) 5) install the Shivering Isles V1.2.410 BETA patch This was posted here: http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=676898 __________________ My Current Mod Contributions for SHIII

05-05-07, 11:16 PM	#13
Radtgaeb Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Muncie, IN Posts: 300 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Just bought it, but haven't got a chance to install. A little worried due to the complaints....but Bethesda has always been good to me. Call me a geek, but I've loved all of their RPG's from Arena to Oblivion, and I even quite enjoy their new Star Trek games.

05-26-07, 04:52 PM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Asking for an update on status concerning problems and patches? Is it safe now to install it, or must I still expect problems? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.