Should I be able to get away with this?

Quagmire · 05-22-07, 02:48 PM

I have found a 100% reliable convoy attack method that is a sure fire winner. Sneak into a convoy and fire off your first salvo. Once detected (I am using Trigger Maru so I am always detected) go to ahead flank at periscope depth.

Leave your periscope up so that the destoryers always know where you are. Crazy you say? Not really.

When a DD begins its attack run order hard to port/starboard so that you can turn inside his turning circle. This will put you into a position where he is crossing your T on his attack run.

Now here is the best part. The DD will slide nicely over your stern just aft of your conning tower (you can get up close and personal with the DD deckhands through your scope at this point) and begin dropping charges. The best part is that the charges never explode shallow enough to do any damage. And since you were at flank speed you are out of the way of the side throwers before they do any damage.

Now if you really want to "Be More Aggressive!" you can do this. As soon as his last charge goes off order full back emergency. Since the DD will always circle around for another run this puts him directly in front of you. All you need to do then is:

1) Turn off the PK
2) Lock the DD on your scope
3) Set the speed on the TDC to 0
4) Set the spread of a torp to 20 deg left or right (depending on the direction of travel of the DD). This allows you to lead the target.
5) When he hits 0 deg bearing quickly update the AOB to 90 deg (important!) and then quickly fire! (Dont forget to open the tube door first!)

You will hit the DD 8 out of 10 times.

Now, is this historically legit or am I exploiting the weak AI or bugged DM? You just cant get killed at peri depth if you can maneuver.

wetwarev7 · 05-22-07, 02:53 PM

I'm no expert, but I would think that the destroyers would fire thier main guns at you if they could see your periscope.

Nice trick though!

Quagmire · 05-22-07, 02:54 PM

Oh sure they fire their guns at you. But they rarely hit, especially at night! :rotfl:

Quillan · 05-22-07, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I have found a 100% reliable convoy attack method that is a sure fire winner.

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Oh sure they fire their guns at you. But they rarely hit, especially at night! :rotfl:

If they hit at all, then this isn't a sure-fire winner, is it?

MaxT.dk · 05-22-07, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Now, is this historically legit or am I exploiting the weak AI or bugged DM? You just cant get killed at peri depth if you can maneuver.

I'm 200% sure it's not historically legit as no captain in his mind will do such thing, but hey! you're talking to a man who managed to sink over 900k tons in 1 patrol, so it sounds fun to me! :rotfl:

Quagmire · 05-22-07, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Quillan

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I have found a 100% reliable convoy attack method that is a sure fire winner.

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Oh sure they fire their guns at you. But they rarely hit, especially at night! :rotfl:

If they hit at all, then this isn't a sure-fire winner, is it?

I have done this several times and only ONE time they hit. Furthermore, no damage was registered. All they do is make nice little water spouts around my scope!

wetwarev7 · 05-22-07, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

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Originally Posted by Quillan

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I have found a 100% reliable convoy attack method that is a sure fire winner.

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Oh sure they fire their guns at you. But they rarely hit, especially at night! :rotfl:

If they hit at all, then this isn't a sure-fire winner, is it?

I have done this several times and only ONE time they hit. Furthermore, no damage was registered. All they do is make nice little water spouts around my scope!

But you did ask if this was historically legit. historically, you would be very afraid of destroyers shooting at your tin can. :p

MaxT.dk · 05-22-07, 03:24 PM

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/305344/destroyer_vs_sub/ <-- That's Quagmire in action! :rotfl:

Quagmire · 05-22-07, 04:26 PM

I love a good "under the keel" shot! NICE!

Yes that is what I am proposing here. It works most of the time (if not all of the time). I guess SHIV need a HUGE realism patch!

GO MODDERS GO!

Kruger · 05-23-07, 05:29 AM

Dunno what else to say... I keep keeping myself from going back to sh3...but I will soon.

StandingCow · 05-23-07, 06:08 AM

A few of us... including myself just surface and outgun them.. lol.

Lagger123987 · 05-23-07, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by StandingCow

A few of us... including myself just surface and outgun them.. lol.

Another casual gamer, jeez, realism addicts are better than casual gamers.

Sailor Steve · 05-23-07, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lagger123987

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Originally Posted by StandingCow

A few of us... including myself just surface and outgun them.. lol.

Another casual gamer, jeez, realism addicts are better than casual gamers.

No, we just like to think we are.

MaxT.dk · 05-23-07, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lagger123987

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Originally Posted by StandingCow

A few of us... including myself just surface and outgun them.. lol.

Another casual gamer, jeez, realism addicts are better than casual gamers.

Says who? Way to proove it? What does make you think you're better than anyone else? Huh? There's always someone out there better, more knowledgaable and smarter than you, remember it... People with your attitude makes me wanna puke

John Channing · 05-23-07, 05:18 PM

Temper temper everyone.

It is a game, meant to be enjoyed. No one is better or worse because of the way they decide to enjoy it.

JCC

05-22-07, 02:48 PM	#1
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Should I be able to get away with this? I have found a 100% reliable convoy attack method that is a sure fire winner. Sneak into a convoy and fire off your first salvo. Once detected (I am using Trigger Maru so I am always detected) go to ahead flank at periscope depth. Leave your periscope up so that the destoryers always know where you are. Crazy you say? Not really. When a DD begins its attack run order hard to port/starboard so that you can turn inside his turning circle. This will put you into a position where he is crossing your T on his attack run. Now here is the best part. The DD will slide nicely over your stern just aft of your conning tower (you can get up close and personal with the DD deckhands through your scope at this point) and begin dropping charges. The best part is that the charges never explode shallow enough to do any damage. And since you were at flank speed you are out of the way of the side throwers before they do any damage. Now if you really want to "Be More Aggressive!" you can do this. As soon as his last charge goes off order full back emergency. Since the DD will always circle around for another run this puts him directly in front of you. All you need to do then is: 1) Turn off the PK 2) Lock the DD on your scope 3) Set the speed on the TDC to 0 4) Set the spread of a torp to 20 deg left or right (depending on the direction of travel of the DD). This allows you to lead the target. 5) When he hits 0 deg bearing quickly update the AOB to 90 deg (important!) and then quickly fire! (Dont forget to open the tube door first!) You will hit the DD 8 out of 10 times. Now, is this historically legit or am I exploiting the weak AI or bugged DM? You just cant get killed at peri depth if you can maneuver. __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned... Last edited by Quagmire; 05-22-07 at 02:59 PM.

05-22-07, 02:53 PM	#2
wetwarev7 Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Deep Waters Posts: 871 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I'm no expert, but I would think that the destroyers would fire thier main guns at you if they could see your periscope. Nice trick though! __________________ Guess I should change my sig since SH5 has an offline mode now

05-22-07, 02:54 PM	#3
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Oh sure they fire their guns at you. But they rarely hit, especially at night! :rotfl: __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

05-22-07, 03:24 PM	#8
MaxT.dk Rough night at Langtrees brothel Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 480 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	http://www.metacafe.com/watch/305344/destroyer_vs_sub/ <-- That's Quagmire in action! :rotfl: __________________ http://maxt.dk/archives/2007/03/22/s...nter-4-cheats/ Get KillerSub MOD and bring the Hell back to Earth! The FUN way to play SH4! Now with Rail Guns!

05-22-07, 04:26 PM	#9
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I love a good "under the keel" shot! NICE! Yes that is what I am proposing here. It works most of the time (if not all of the time). I guess SHIV need a HUGE realism patch! GO MODDERS GO! __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

05-23-07, 05:29 AM	#10
Kruger Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 476 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Dunno what else to say... I keep keeping myself from going back to sh3...but I will soon.

05-23-07, 06:08 AM	#11
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	A few of us... including myself just surface and outgun them.. lol. __________________

05-23-07, 05:18 PM	#15
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Temper temper everyone. It is a game, meant to be enjoyed. No one is better or worse because of the way they decide to enjoy it. JCC