Ned Beach's RunSilent Run Deep

wstaub · 05-19-07, 03:59 PM

Just finished reading all 3 of his books following the crew of Run Silent, Run Deep and it gives a new regard for all the troubles the sub crews went through. A Must read for all Silent Hunter fans everywhere.

CaptainHaplo · 05-19-07, 04:26 PM

He wrote 3 of em? I only read RsRd - thanks for the post - gonna have to check out the other 2!!!

wstaub · 05-19-07, 04:42 PM

were Dust on the Sea, and Cold is the Sea

Sailor Steve · 05-19-07, 04:57 PM

Have you read his autobiography, Salt and Steel?

wstaub · 05-19-07, 05:07 PM

Not yet planning to read that one after I finish a book about Richard O'Kane I have and one on The Wahoo.

Snowman999 · 05-19-07, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wstaub

were Dust on the Sea, and Cold is the Sea

N.B. the latter is about a cold war nuke boat, not WWII.

wstaub · 05-19-07, 07:38 PM

true but it still follows the original crew

RENEGADE-623 · 05-19-07, 10:14 PM

i read all three too back when i was in high school, many, many moons ago. It was those books that got me interested in subsims in the first plce

Sailor Steve · 05-20-07, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman999

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Originally Posted by wstaub

were Dust on the Sea, and Cold is the Sea

N.B. the latter is about a cold war nuke boat, not WWII.

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Originally Posted by wstaub

true but it still follows the original crew

Really? That's pretty cool!

AntEater · 05-22-07, 02:19 PM

The chief engineer of one of the SSNs in the book is a Lt. Tom Clancy

*SPOILER ALERT* (if you read "cold is the sea, don't read further)

I really like the first part, where he describes Hyman Rickover (under a different name), nuclear training and the likes. Almost reads like a documentary book. Replace Adm. Brighting with Adm. Rickover, Richardson with Beach himself and the CNO with Arleigh Burke, you have a almost realistic account. The characters match their historic counterparts perfectly. The "under-ice submarine patrol" part is quite clancyish. The only thing really different from Clancy is that Beach's book is set in the early 1960s, and written in 1978.
The soviets deliberately ramming a SSBN under the ice, having a ECM defence against homing torpedoes and a fixed missile installation in the pack ice is just too far fetched. But just as I was thinking "at least he consequently lets the narrative stay with his heroes and does not do clancy style bad guy cameos" I turn the page and "Capt. Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov was angry......"
Dammit, I never took creative writing but even I get that you do not drastically alter your narrative style on the last 50 pages....
Also, the sheer volume of torpedoes running around under the ice pack while BOTH sides had communication with their respective subs would have triggered nuclear war in reality, especially since the book is set around the time of the Cuban missile crisis. Neither the soviets, nor the americans (who naturally only "return fire"

) have any qualms of engaging each other.

05-19-07, 03:59 PM	#1
wstaub Sailor man Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 45 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Ned Beach's RunSilent Run Deep Just finished reading all 3 of his books following the crew of Run Silent, Run Deep and it gives a new regard for all the troubles the sub crews went through. A Must read for all Silent Hunter fans everywhere.

05-19-07, 04:26 PM	#2
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	He wrote 3 of em? I only read RsRd - thanks for the post - gonna have to check out the other 2!!! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

05-19-07, 04:42 PM	#3
wstaub Sailor man Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 45 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The Other Two were Dust on the Sea, and Cold is the Sea

05-19-07, 04:57 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Have you read his autobiography, Salt and Steel? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-22-07, 02:19 PM	#10
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The chief engineer of one of the SSNs in the book is a Lt. Tom Clancy SPOILER ALERT (if you read "cold is the sea, don't read further) I really like the first part, where he describes Hyman Rickover (under a different name), nuclear training and the likes. Almost reads like a documentary book. Replace Adm. Brighting with Adm. Rickover, Richardson with Beach himself and the CNO with Arleigh Burke, you have a almost realistic account. The characters match their historic counterparts perfectly. The "under-ice submarine patrol" part is quite clancyish. The only thing really different from Clancy is that Beach's book is set in the early 1960s, and written in 1978. The soviets deliberately ramming a SSBN under the ice, having a ECM defence against homing torpedoes and a fixed missile installation in the pack ice is just too far fetched. But just as I was thinking "at least he consequently lets the narrative stay with his heroes and does not do clancy style bad guy cameos" I turn the page and "Capt. Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov was angry......" Dammit, I never took creative writing but even I get that you do not drastically alter your narrative style on the last 50 pages.... Also, the sheer volume of torpedoes running around under the ice pack while BOTH sides had communication with their respective subs would have triggered nuclear war in reality, especially since the book is set around the time of the Cuban missile crisis. Neither the soviets, nor the americans (who naturally only "return fire" ) have any qualms of engaging each other. __________________

05-19-07, 05:07 PM	#5
wstaub Sailor man Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 45 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Not yet planning to read that one after I finish a book about Richard O'Kane I have and one on The Wahoo.

05-19-07, 07:38 PM	#7
wstaub Sailor man Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 45 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	true but it still follows the original crew

05-19-07, 10:14 PM	#8
RENEGADE-623 Sailor man Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 45 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	i read all three too back when i was in high school, many, many moons ago. It was those books that got me interested in subsims in the first plce