The truth about lie detectors ...

geetrue · 05-23-07, 10:50 PM

The truth about lie detectors ...

I seriously thought this was a joke at first:

This is a story about the white house administering a lie detector test to the Clinton administration's security advisor Sandy Berger to see if they can blame some white house missing papers on Clinton's administration.

This is a sleeper story that will break new ground for future cases.

http://www.livescience.com/health/070522_bad_lies.html

Have ya'll ever taken a lie detector test?

I have ... I was scared too, but I told the truth.

We had a teenager working with us (a long time ago) that would tell some real whopper lies. He would volunteer information about his father being a race car driver and stuff like that. We all knew he was lying, right? The boss even talked about it and said, "Wait till he has to take his quarterly polygraph test.

Well his turn came and went and nothing happened to him. They didn't fire him or nothing that is, but somehow it got explained to us other workers that a real liar can go so far as to believe his own lies and therefore pass a polygraph test.

Strange, but true ...

Letum · 05-23-07, 10:58 PM

A polygraph test at work?

baggygreen · 05-24-07, 01:20 AM

navy requirement maybe?

jumpy · 05-24-07, 03:22 AM

^^

Q: "Do you like your job?"
A: "Yes" beeeeeeep!

Q: "Do you feel you are challenged and satisfied with your environment at work?"
A: "Yes" beeeeeeeep!

Q "Do you get on well with your colleagues in a friendly and supportive atmosphere?"
A "Yes, for the most part" beeeeeeeep!

Q: "How do you feel about your long term prospects with the company and future career within it?"
A: "Very positive and optimistic" beeeeeeeep!

:rotfl:
Somehow I think that reflects quite accurately how such a test would transpire at my work...

Obviously I'm poking fun here, but on a more serious note I'd hope that whatever job you are doing that requires a quarterly polygraph test is not just some bs sit in an office and take home a pay cheque at the end of the month deal. Like employee drug testing; I'd flat out refuse to participate, even if it meant loosing my job- what I do at home is my business and so long as I have the discipline to keep work and my life (which is far more important to me than making like a battery for my boss' pension fund) separate, then work can go and stuff themselves

baggygreen · 05-24-07, 07:05 AM

i've 4 different places of 'employment' tho not all fall under the category of work..

one of them i sell drugs

one of them i get tested

one of them i dont get tested, which is strange cos the players do..

and one of them couldnt care less!

Jimbuna · 05-24-07, 07:28 AM

It should be obligatory for everyone (politicians) at Westminster

Oberon · 05-24-07, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

It should be obligatory for everyone (politicians) at Westminster

It'd empty out the House of Lords and the House of Commons pretty quick!

Jimbuna · 05-24-07, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

It should be obligatory for everyone (politicians) at Westminster

It'd empty out the House of Lords and the House of Commons pretty quick!

But think of the money we'd have to spend on the needy

SUBMAN1 · 05-24-07, 10:37 AM

I always knew lie detector tests were inaccurate, but I never knew they were this bad:

Quote:

Just how bad?

The Academy researchers even provided a pertinent example for the Feds. Given the modern polygraph's strengths, the machine could uncover 8 out of 10 spies working at, say, a national atomic laboratory with 10,000 hypothetical employees. Sounds good, but the detection comes at the price of finding 1,600 innocent employees guilty of spying. While about 8,400 good employees would pass the test, 1,600 careers would be ruined.

Heibges · 05-24-07, 12:02 PM

And Adlrich Ames passed many polygraph tests, as he destroyed our intelligence operations in the Soviet Union.

05-23-07, 10:50 PM	#1
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The truth about lie detectors ... The truth about lie detectors ... I seriously thought this was a joke at first: This is a story about the white house administering a lie detector test to the Clinton administration's security advisor Sandy Berger to see if they can blame some white house missing papers on Clinton's administration. This is a sleeper story that will break new ground for future cases. http://www.livescience.com/health/070522_bad_lies.html Have ya'll ever taken a lie detector test? I have ... I was scared too, but I told the truth. We had a teenager working with us (a long time ago) that would tell some real whopper lies. He would volunteer information about his father being a race car driver and stuff like that. We all knew he was lying, right? The boss even talked about it and said, "Wait till he has to take his quarterly polygraph test. Well his turn came and went and nothing happened to him. They didn't fire him or nothing that is, but somehow it got explained to us other workers that a real liar can go so far as to believe his own lies and therefore pass a polygraph test. Strange, but true ... __________________

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	A polygraph test at work? __________________

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jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	^^ Q: "Do you like your job?" A: "Yes" beeeeeeep! Q: "Do you feel you are challenged and satisfied with your environment at work?" A: "Yes" beeeeeeeep! Q "Do you get on well with your colleagues in a friendly and supportive atmosphere?" A "Yes, for the most part" beeeeeeeep! Q: "How do you feel about your long term prospects with the company and future career within it?" A: "Very positive and optimistic" beeeeeeeep! :rotfl: Somehow I think that reflects quite accurately how such a test would transpire at my work... Obviously I'm poking fun here, but on a more serious note I'd hope that whatever job you are doing that requires a quarterly polygraph test is not just some bs sit in an office and take home a pay cheque at the end of the month deal. Like employee drug testing; I'd flat out refuse to participate, even if it meant loosing my job- what I do at home is my business and so long as I have the discipline to keep work and my life (which is far more important to me than making like a battery for my boss' pension fund) separate, then work can go and stuff themselves __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It should be obligatory for everyone (politicians) at Westminster __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	And Adlrich Ames passed many polygraph tests, as he destroyed our intelligence operations in the Soviet Union. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	navy requirement maybe?

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	i've 4 different places of 'employment' tho not all fall under the category of work.. one of them i sell drugs one of them i get tested one of them i dont get tested, which is strange cos the players do.. and one of them couldnt care less!