A word of advice for all Subsim skippers..

CaptainHaplo · 05-19-07, 12:49 PM

There have recently been a slew of closed threads - all relating to "if ubi doesn't patch SH4 then we oughtta......"

Folks, these discussions are pointless, and reflect badly on the forum. This forum is the #1 naval (NOTE - not just sub) "bbs" out there. A multitude of companies look at this site - not just Ubi. In the last few years we have gotten extra tidbits first from these companies because of the support and activity they see here. If they come here and see flame and threat posts, their interest in us as a community - and as consumers - dies.

And do you think SH3 and 4 where as moddable as they were because the devs felt like doing it that way? It was done that way to better serve us. No - its not easy - but they could have hard coded darned near everything....

No - I am not happy with SH4 in its current state. But there are ways to voice your opinion. Email them - sign Neal's petition - and Wait. IF Ubi decides 1.2 is it - then a discussion can take place as to what happens then - but even then - THIS site is not the place for that discussion. But at this point alot of people are putting the cart before the horse, with threats and such when no decision is yet made. Given the support SH3 recieved - and the fact Ubi listened on the starforce issue - aren't some folks going of the deep end?

Threats of lawsuits, boycotts, etc do nothing to pressure companies - or individuals for that matter. They look at a buglist - say "man we cant fix 70+ bugs in one more patch - so these people will still be screaming at us with these threats even if we make another patch - so why should we?" They know they will never make everyone totally happy - so when you act like this - they wonder why they should try. When you let them know "hey - here is a list of stuff that needs addressing - and a whole slew of us would love to see these things fixed" - they are gonna be a lot more apt to consider putting resources into it.

What I am trying to get across is this - voice your displeasure to Ubisoft - but remember that what you post here reflects on not just you - but on us all. So remember why your here - to enjoy good discussion about games, enjoy the humor and company, and help make Subsim even better.

That is what has made Subsim what it is today, and will keep gaming companies (not just Ubi) - interested in the desires of this community.

05-19-07, 12:49 PM	#1
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	A word of advice for all Subsim skippers.. There have recently been a slew of closed threads - all relating to "if ubi doesn't patch SH4 then we oughtta......" Folks, these discussions are pointless, and reflect badly on the forum. This forum is the #1 naval (NOTE - not just sub) "bbs" out there. A multitude of companies look at this site - not just Ubi. In the last few years we have gotten extra tidbits first from these companies because of the support and activity they see here. If they come here and see flame and threat posts, their interest in us as a community - and as consumers - dies. And do you think SH3 and 4 where as moddable as they were because the devs felt like doing it that way? It was done that way to better serve us. No - its not easy - but they could have hard coded darned near everything.... No - I am not happy with SH4 in its current state. But there are ways to voice your opinion. Email them - sign Neal's petition - and Wait. IF Ubi decides 1.2 is it - then a discussion can take place as to what happens then - but even then - THIS site is not the place for that discussion. But at this point alot of people are putting the cart before the horse, with threats and such when no decision is yet made. Given the support SH3 recieved - and the fact Ubi listened on the starforce issue - aren't some folks going of the deep end? Threats of lawsuits, boycotts, etc do nothing to pressure companies - or individuals for that matter. They look at a buglist - say "man we cant fix 70+ bugs in one more patch - so these people will still be screaming at us with these threats even if we make another patch - so why should we?" They know they will never make everyone totally happy - so when you act like this - they wonder why they should try. When you let them know "hey - here is a list of stuff that needs addressing - and a whole slew of us would love to see these things fixed" - they are gonna be a lot more apt to consider putting resources into it. What I am trying to get across is this - voice your displeasure to Ubisoft - but remember that what you post here reflects on not just you - but on us all. So remember why your here - to enjoy good discussion about games, enjoy the humor and company, and help make Subsim even better. That is what has made Subsim what it is today, and will keep gaming companies (not just Ubi) - interested in the desires of this community. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo