AA gun view blocked by shield

Platapus · 04-03-07, 07:33 PM

I can't find whether this has been discussed before, so my apologies if this is old news.

I was on my first patrol in a Gar class when I was attacked by one plane. Just for fun I wanted to see if I could shoot it down.

However when I tried to move the AA gun around my view was blocked by the tub like shield surrounding me. This effectively prohibited me from targeting any aircraft other than ones directly astern.

Is this functioning as designed or is it a bug. And if a bug is there a work around?

Cakewalk · 04-03-07, 07:36 PM

Definitly something that the dev team overlooked, everyone has this problem. I'm not sure whether it will be fixed in the next patch, but it seems likely that it will be corrected eventually.

Platapus · 04-03-07, 07:43 PM

Ok well as long as there is not a work around I guess I aint shootin any aircraft (probably a bad habit to get in to anyway if my SH3 experiences are applicable)

Cakewalk · 04-03-07, 07:47 PM

Yeah, and if you really need to shoot down a plane, then just leave one of your crew to man the guns, luckily he's skinny enough that he doesn't "hang over the side" of the tub.:rotfl:

04-03-07, 08:07 PM

Bug #23876783022...NOTED!

DeePsix501 · 04-03-07, 08:13 PM

Why is everyone so quick to call anything they dont like a bug? It is not a bug. The early war subs really did have high fairing around the cigarette deck. Here is the Grudgeon, a Gar class sub. As you can see the fairings are high around the AA gun.

It wasn't till ~Mid 1943 till they shaved down the rear fairing and put a railing around the back. Gato class subs along with older Salmon Gar Tambor etc class subs eventualy got the upgraded conning towers. Then it looked like this:

Start a career in 1943 and you'll see what i mean. My sub currently has high fairings around the back too and it does hinder AA gun aiming viewing, so I avoid confrontation with enemy aircraft as much as possible. I am playing with realism after all...

stabiz · 04-03-07, 08:26 PM

So you are saying the Americans sent submarines out to war that could only fire AA guns straight backwards? Yeah right.

Ducimus · 04-03-07, 08:45 PM

I agree its annoying, but i don't agree that bathtub around the AA gun is a bug.

Bug or not, i "fixed" it in my mod pack. Pretty easy to get rid of, just assign the boat the next conning tower earlier then youd normally see it. (next conning tower removes taht bathtub, and on the gato's cuts the shroud around the periscope shears. On the Tambor and gar it only removes the bathtub- thats how i know its not a bug

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Platapus · 04-03-07, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeePsix501

The early war subs really did have high fairing around the cigarette deck. Here is the Grudgeon, a Gar class sub. As you can see the fairings are high around the AA gun.

I think I may have not made myself clear. I don't think the high tub shield is the bug, I feel that when you rotate the AA gun to specific positions, the shield behind you is graphically rendering between the gun and the "camera" blocking off the view.

In no way would this happen on a real submarine as the gunners view point would be inside the tub where in the video game the point of view is at the edge of the tub.

I am sorry I did not make that more clear in my post.

John Channing · 04-03-07, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

So you are saying the Americans sent submarines out to war that could only fire AA guns straight backwards? Yeah right.

Well, seeing as he was good enough to supply some evidence, perhaps you could supply some to the contrary?

JCC

DeePsix501 · 04-03-07, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeePsix501

The early war subs really did have high fairing around the cigarette deck. Here is the Grudgeon, a Gar class sub. As you can see the fairings are high around the AA gun.

I think I may have not made myself clear. I don't think the high tub shield is the bug, I feel that when you rotate the AA gun to specific positions, the shield behind you is graphically rendering between the fun and the "camera" blocking off the view.

In no way would this happen on a real submarine as the gunners view point would be inside the tub where in the video game the point of view is at the edge of the tub.

I am sorry I did not make that more clear in my post.

Oh, so your Camera view is tucked up against the fairings where you cant see at all? Hmm, Maybe fiddle with different resolution sizes and such.

StandingCow · 04-03-07, 09:27 PM

Yea, this is an issue of the camera view being behind the tub and blocking your vision, no way would they have ment it to be this way. Its a bug.

stabiz · 04-04-07, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabiz

So you are saying the Americans sent submarines out to war that could only fire AA guns straight backwards? Yeah right.

Well, seeing as he was good enough to supply some evidence, perhaps you could supply some to the contrary?

JCC

How about the fact that one can turn the AA gun? No point in that if it only shoots backwards.

Spaxspore · 04-04-07, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StandingCow

Yea, this is an issue of the camera view being behind the tub and blocking your vision, no way would they have ment it to be this way. Its a bug.

Exactly! its like your body (when goin in 360 to aim at planes) goes through a side of the "tub" and your vision is 50% blocked.. extremely annoyin when u r under constent attack by air.

walsh2509 · 04-04-07, 08:37 AM

ITS NOT A BUG !

I had it on mine up until about Nov 42, I came back from a mission and got a screen, sub being refitted, the "bathtub" round the aft AA gun was being taken away to reduce the subs profile.

its not a bug.

04-03-07, 07:33 PM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	AA gun view blocked by shield I can't find whether this has been discussed before, so my apologies if this is old news. I was on my first patrol in a Gar class when I was attacked by one plane. Just for fun I wanted to see if I could shoot it down. However when I tried to move the AA gun around my view was blocked by the tub like shield surrounding me. This effectively prohibited me from targeting any aircraft other than ones directly astern. Is this functioning as designed or is it a bug. And if a bug is there a work around?

04-03-07, 07:47 PM	#4
Cakewalk Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 212 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Yeah, and if you really need to shoot down a plane, then just leave one of your crew to man the guns, luckily he's skinny enough that he doesn't "hang over the side" of the tub.:rotfl: __________________ Its not a bug... its a feature!

04-03-07, 08:13 PM	#6
DeePsix501 Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 173 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why is everyone so quick to call anything they dont like a bug? It is not a bug. The early war subs really did have high fairing around the cigarette deck. Here is the Grudgeon, a Gar class sub. As you can see the fairings are high around the AA gun. It wasn't till ~Mid 1943 till they shaved down the rear fairing and put a railing around the back. Gato class subs along with older Salmon Gar Tambor etc class subs eventualy got the upgraded conning towers. Then it looked like this: Start a career in 1943 and you'll see what i mean. My sub currently has high fairings around the back too and it does hinder AA gun aiming viewing, so I avoid confrontation with enemy aircraft as much as possible. I am playing with realism after all... __________________ In Memory of the USS Triton (SS-201) - May We Never Forget Those On Eternal Patrol

04-03-07, 08:26 PM	#7
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	So you are saying the Americans sent submarines out to war that could only fire AA guns straight backwards? Yeah right. __________________

04-03-07, 09:27 PM	#12
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Yea, this is an issue of the camera view being behind the tub and blocking your vision, no way would they have ment it to be this way. Its a bug. __________________

04-03-07, 07:36 PM	#2
Cakewalk Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 212 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Definitly something that the dev team overlooked, everyone has this problem. I'm not sure whether it will be fixed in the next patch, but it seems likely that it will be corrected eventually. __________________ Its not a bug... its a feature!

04-03-07, 07:43 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Ok well as long as there is not a work around I guess I aint shootin any aircraft (probably a bad habit to get in to anyway if my SH3 experiences are applicable)

04-03-07, 08:07 PM	#5
Grunt Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Bug #23876783022...NOTED!

04-03-07, 08:45 PM	#8
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I agree its annoying, but i don't agree that bathtub around the AA gun is a bug. Bug or not, i "fixed" it in my mod pack. Pretty easy to get rid of, just assign the boat the next conning tower earlier then youd normally see it. (next conning tower removes taht bathtub, and on the gato's cuts the shroud around the periscope shears. On the Tambor and gar it only removes the bathtub- thats how i know its not a bug )

04-04-07, 08:37 AM	#15
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	ITS NOT A BUG ! I had it on mine up until about Nov 42, I came back from a mission and got a screen, sub being refitted, the "bathtub" round the aft AA gun was being taken away to reduce the subs profile. its not a bug.