TypeVIIB or TypeVIIC? PS. Crew

Avatar · 05-11-07, 01:28 PM

Howdy folks,
Lastnight I was going through my volumes of submarine books and was wondering which Uboat is the better to have VIIB or VIIC? Aside from the 3seconds differential in diving time, what would be the other reasons for upgrading from a B to a C?
Same torpedo load, same range, same operational depth...
I looked in the Museum and found that there are 2 type VIIC's to choose from, one in 1939 and one in 1940. But the questions still linger about changing from a B to a C.
I've kind of grown on a B, I like the net cutter on the bow as it gives a more menacing look to the boat.
I have only been playing for about 3 weeks now and I dont know if specific battery and sonar upgrades are only for the B or the C-1939 or C-1940. If there is better sonar specific only to the C, well then I think I will have to upgrade, but if the sonar and battery are the same throughout the class, then I wont have to worry about changing.
If everyone could put in their opinions, much thanks!
Avatar

PS. I think I've finally found the key in crew management and it is awesome. Understanding the qualifications and what works is much fun. My boat is personalized to my taste. On a Type VIIB, I carry 41 men, including myself. I think historically speaking, VIIB's had 44 men, but three less means more food and more space to sleep. And I dont have any problems with fatigue at all.
Last night I did my 3rd patrol on the western approaches to england and scotland and we did a clean sweep, 11 ships sunk, though the largest ships we bagged were 2 medium cargo ships and I got a small coastal tanker(my first tanker). The Tanker blew up with one shot, like a firecracker, and was split into. The shot was a beauty, right in the middle.
U-53 says: "CAN DO!"

edit: the otherships were small freighters and a DD and a fishing vessel and a sloop, maybe someone important was on the sloop.

bruschi sauro · 05-11-07, 02:25 PM

For me VII C

Jimbuna · 05-11-07, 02:30 PM

The VIIC gets more upgrades

Avatar · 05-11-07, 02:31 PM

Are there equipment loads specific to the type VII C? not available to the B?
I guess upgrades are referring to the Flak?
could you give an example?

ReallyDedPoet · 05-11-07, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Are there equipment loads specific to the type VII C? not available to the B?
I guess upgrades are referring to the Flak?

Like jimbuna mentioned, more upgrades, Conning Tower Upgrades would be one, the VIIC is the better sub.

RDP

Spytrx · 05-11-07, 02:38 PM

I too would go for the later model C version - 3 seconds are a lifetime!

Jimbuna · 05-11-07, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatar

Are there equipment loads specific to the type VII C? not available to the B?
I guess upgrades are referring to the Flak?
could you give an example?

U-flak

Hitman · 05-11-07, 03:40 PM

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Aside from the 3seconds differential in diving time, what would be the other reasons for upgrading from a B to a C?

Well the "C" instead of the "B" clearly states an evolution, so it is supposed to be better

if only marginally.

As war progresses, you will probably find a VIIC is better in that the Kriegsmarine discontinues the VIIB upgrades (More or less like SH3 after the 1.4 patch itself

) and centers in the "C" and "C/41" one.

Though I admit that if you are heading for the Mediterranean in October 1941, a "B" is still a fair choice for some time to come

johan_d · 05-11-07, 03:46 PM

I made the mistake of my life!. (1943), did choose a IX type, what a piece of crap is that!, slow diver number one.. I wanna go back for an VIIC, the best!, fast in every aspect, and a handy basterd for all purposes! Top German Craftwork!

Penelope_Grey · 05-11-07, 06:16 PM

You just need to adjust your playing style if playing a IX.

True they are not as nimble as the VII's. But they have other strengths. You cannot play a IX like you would a VII

johan_d · 05-11-07, 06:20 PM

Elaborate miss?

Umfuld · 05-11-07, 08:38 PM

Myself I've started to dive before I fire the torps in the IX. You've got a good minute or two before the sea starts to cover your scope.

And then I will go 5-6 knots until just before the toprs hit. Though I hate to do that, the quicker depth is needed.

Reverie · 05-12-07, 01:04 AM

With realistic reload times, I always "punch it" and head for the depths after every salvo, regardless of the boat I'm driving.

Reverie

05-11-07, 01:28 PM	#1
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	TypeVIIB or TypeVIIC? PS. Crew Howdy folks, Lastnight I was going through my volumes of submarine books and was wondering which Uboat is the better to have VIIB or VIIC? Aside from the 3seconds differential in diving time, what would be the other reasons for upgrading from a B to a C? Same torpedo load, same range, same operational depth... I looked in the Museum and found that there are 2 type VIIC's to choose from, one in 1939 and one in 1940. But the questions still linger about changing from a B to a C. I've kind of grown on a B, I like the net cutter on the bow as it gives a more menacing look to the boat. I have only been playing for about 3 weeks now and I dont know if specific battery and sonar upgrades are only for the B or the C-1939 or C-1940. If there is better sonar specific only to the C, well then I think I will have to upgrade, but if the sonar and battery are the same throughout the class, then I wont have to worry about changing. If everyone could put in their opinions, much thanks! Avatar PS. I think I've finally found the key in crew management and it is awesome. Understanding the qualifications and what works is much fun. My boat is personalized to my taste. On a Type VIIB, I carry 41 men, including myself. I think historically speaking, VIIB's had 44 men, but three less means more food and more space to sleep. And I dont have any problems with fatigue at all. Last night I did my 3rd patrol on the western approaches to england and scotland and we did a clean sweep, 11 ships sunk, though the largest ships we bagged were 2 medium cargo ships and I got a small coastal tanker(my first tanker). The Tanker blew up with one shot, like a firecracker, and was split into. The shot was a beauty, right in the middle. U-53 says: "CAN DO!" edit: the otherships were small freighters and a DD and a fishing vessel and a sloop, maybe someone important was on the sloop. Last edited by Avatar; 05-11-07 at 01:41 PM.

05-11-07, 02:30 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The VIIC gets more upgrades __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-11-07, 06:16 PM	#10
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You just need to adjust your playing style if playing a IX. True they are not as nimble as the VII's. But they have other strengths. You cannot play a IX like you would a VII __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

05-11-07, 02:25 PM	#2
bruschi sauro Frogman Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florence Italy Posts: 307 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	For me VII C

05-11-07, 02:31 PM	#4
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Are there equipment loads specific to the type VII C? not available to the B? I guess upgrades are referring to the Flak? could you give an example?

05-11-07, 02:38 PM	#6
Spytrx Medic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 167 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I too would go for the later model C version - 3 seconds are a lifetime!

05-11-07, 03:46 PM	#9
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	I made the mistake of my life!. (1943), did choose a IX type, what a piece of crap is that!, slow diver number one.. I wanna go back for an VIIC, the best!, fast in every aspect, and a handy basterd for all purposes! Top German Craftwork!

05-11-07, 06:20 PM	#11
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	Elaborate miss?

05-11-07, 08:38 PM	#12
Umfuld Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Posts: 503 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Myself I've started to dive before I fire the torps in the IX. You've got a good minute or two before the sea starts to cover your scope. And then I will go 5-6 knots until just before the toprs hit. Though I hate to do that, the quicker depth is needed.

05-12-07, 01:04 AM	#13
Reverie Planesman Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 195 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	With realistic reload times, I always "punch it" and head for the depths after every salvo, regardless of the boat I'm driving. Reverie