When did this become OK?

[Diggs]

I like most of the people here love the sub game concept but as i've been searching around the forums, reading what people have to say, the basic humdrum seems to be... Why does this happen? Is this a bug? Is this happening to anyone else? Quite frankly, i'm a little angry. When did it become ok to sell a faulty product to the masses? Havent people gone to jail for stuff like this in the past? Dont get me wrong....I love this game and see it's potential but I dont believe I should have to bend over and grab my ankles for $50+ dollars. I'm afraid it's a sign of the times gentlemen and if no one does anything about it, it will only get worse.

Originally Posted by Diggs

I like most of the people here love the sub game concept but as i've been searching around the forums, reading what people have to say, the basic humdrum seems to be... Why does this happen? Is this a bug? Is this happening to anyone else? Quite frankly, i'm a little angry. When did it become ok to sell a faulty product to the masses? Havent people gone to jail for stuff like this in the past? Dont get me wrong....I love this game and see it's potential but I dont believe I should have to bend over and grab my ankles for $50+ dollars. I'm afraid it's a sign of the times gentlemen and if no one does anything about it, it will only get worse.

Since when it was ok for the company like Ubi to rush the devs to end the game?
You have a time line, a final release date, and it's not the same as STALKER, and you have to sacrifice something to do other... Basically, despite the bugs and what not, having this product is the dream... Even here the product was wanted badly and that's why you get "a faulty product".... Needless to say, I think the devs deserve at least BRAVO for a wonderfull job they did, but it's not their fault for having so litle time as you need:
1. Research
2. Technical consulting
3. Model designing
4. Materials, war footage to analyze
5. Compiling and drawing
6. Textures
7. Scripts
8. Men need to eat/sleep/drink....
And many other stuff and everything is so... To the point, it has serious bugs, many of them fixed, but we wanted it fast, we wanted it bad and Ubi wanted money, so we got it. We were bitching/moaning about release date, now we bitch/moan about "technical dificulties"... WTF? The devs did a fantastic job, as would Ali G would said RESPECT or Borat GREAT SUCESS..
We wait for a while, get a GWX for SH4 and we are set....
For the end, I think UBI wasted our trust for the next serial of Silent Hunter, but we are yet to see...
And over and over again, it should be nuke sim...

[Calbeck]

Yet another "this game isn't more than 90% perfect out of the box, I want a refund" thread?

I've been playing sub sims since GATO. There hasn't BEEN a sub game that was better than SH4 at launch. And we aren't talking about a game that has THAT many issues, most of which are CTDs clearly related to hardware drivers the devs have no control over.

Aside from a couple of cases of goofball physics (flying subs, submerged enemies), the game itself kicks significant amounts of @$$.

Originally Posted by Calbeck

Yet another "this game isn't more than 90% perfect out of the box, I want a refund" thread?

I've been playing sub sims since GATO. There hasn't BEEN a sub game that was better than SH4 at launch. And we aren't talking about a game that has THAT many issues, most of which are CTDs clearly related to hardware drivers the devs have no control over.

Aside from a couple of cases of goofball physics (flying subs, submerged enemies), the game itself kicks significant amounts of @$$.

1. One from too many....
Agree 100%, as she really kicks asses, very close to SH3 GWX 1.03....

[Diggs]

No fingers being pointed at any one person, more at UBI. I guess when you want it bad you get it bad. But that doesnt make it ok. I cant help but feel like ubisoft is pushing the boundrys by selling an unfinished product and lots of other large corperations are taking notes on the outcome of this and in the not so distant future, we will see more of this bulls__t.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by Calbeck

Yet another "this game isn't more than 90% perfect out of the box, I want a refund" thread?

No, not quite -

Originally Posted by drama queen

Why does this happen? Is this a bug? Is this happening to anyone else? Quite frankly, i'm a little angry. When did it become ok to sell a faulty product to the masses? Havent people gone to jail for stuff like this in the past?

- This time it is a "this game isn't more than 90% perfect out of the box, hence they ought to go to jail!" thread. Anyway, I don't think someone registers only to make such drivel his first post. It wouldn't be anything new and I wouldn't be surprised if a number of crybabys would register new accounts to lend more "weight" to their "arguments".

[sqk7744]

Long walk...
...Short Pier

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Diggs

Havent people gone to jail for stuff like this in the past?

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we've shown today how ireparable damage has been done to my client's video gaming experience due to the gross negligence of the Ubisoft development team. Silent Hunter 4 was my client's only hope to live a full and meaningful life. That hope has been stomped out by things such as a transparant watch crew when environmental effects are turned on, iffy convoy AI and the most egregious and horrible of them all...the "assigned to the Pearl Harbor" grammar error. If you don't convict these men today, then the gross travesty of having pc games ship with bugs will continue. I urge you to do the right thing."

:rotfl:

Originally Posted by Diggs

No fingers being pointed at any one person, more at UBI. I guess when you want it bad you get it bad. But that doesnt make it ok. I cant help but feel like ubisoft is pushing the boundrys by selling an unfinished product and lots of other large corperations are taking notes on the outcome of this and in the not so distant future, we will see more of this bulls__t.

That's more I like it....
But anyway, we may have to be patient for the patches and then the mods are gonna "finish" the product...

[Diggs]

Actually, it is my first post. And a consumer should demand 100% in a product. Judging by the tone of your reply I would guess that you have some kind of emotional investment in this game. Don't get too butthurt over it...some people dont settle and not everyone is used to kneeling down and recieving copious amounts of SEAMEN like yourself. Pun Intended!

I didn't mean to be rude or something, I just wanted to say that after 1.2 patch, the game is more playable than before and you are 100% right to demand full working product, but hey, we have the game.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we've shown today how ireparable damage has been done to my client's video gaming experience due to the gross negligence of the Ubisoft development team. Silent Hunter 4 was my client's only hope to live a full and meaningful life. That hope has been stomped out by things such as a transparant watch crew when environmental effects are turned on, iffy convoy AI and the most egregious and horrible of them all...the "assigned to the Pearl Harbor" grammar error. If you don't convict these men today, then the gross travesty of having pc games ship with bugs will continue. I urge you to do the right thing."

:rotfl:

Yeah, I had *just* that mental image in my head lol. :rotfl::rotfl:

Originally Posted by heartc

Yeah, I had *just* that mental image in my head lol. :rotfl::rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Originally Posted by Diggs

Actually, it is my first post. And a consumer should demand 100% in a product. Judging by the tone of your reply I would guess that you have some kind of emotional investment in this game. Don't get too butthurt over it...some people dont settle and not everyone is used to kneeling down and recieving copious amounts of SEAMEN like yourself. Pun Intended!

*Sighs* why do these's kinda threads always end up having someone getting upset and throwing insults at people that dont agree with them or have a different opinion

In the good old days I would use a good bottle of scotch and a handgun to blow my head off....
Times are changing fast....