Strange, non-aggressive AI in a Task Force??

DragonRR1 · 04-22-07, 04:14 PM

I've done about 6 or 7 patrols with patch 1.2. Generally I've quite enjoyed them.. of course there's a but!

I've just done a patrol and came across a huge task force, the Yamoto, at least 4 huge battleships, a number of smaller destroyers, 2 carriers and the odd freighter.

I was ahead of the group so I positioned myself for a torpedo run dropped to 200ft and waited. Nervously I rose to periscope depth and launched all my torpedos at the Yamoto and 2 of the other large battleships. 4 hits. I also launched all my aft torpedoes at 2 targets.. Anyway.. to save boring you all to death I ended up with zero torpedos, 1 sunk destroyer, 2 huge battleships or whatever they were listing badly and a holed Yamoto....

Knowing it would be suicide I surfaced to see what would happen. Well not a lot really! I spent nearly all my deck gun ammo on the Yamoto (which didn't sink). Only one ship actually fired at me which was a carrier! Even then there were only 2 shots.

What one earth was going on? I've read a couple of posts suggesting that this kind of thing did happen in the war but I should have had swiss cheese made out of me within nano seconds. In the end I just gave up in disgust. I've had more challenges taking on a single armed freighter on the surface... Anyone else experienced this?

tater · 04-22-07, 04:40 PM

Yeah, it happened to me as well. the big ships don't seem to shoot at all as far as I can tell. CVs are so absurdly easy to sink I've never had any live to have me try to shell them.

Scoochy · 04-22-07, 04:43 PM

Tons of talk about being able to simply surface and hang out. I have actually sustained more damage from a/c than from any warship.

Warships don't shoot much, and when they do, they don't hit much.

Prof · 04-22-07, 05:07 PM

This is all probably to do with the level of crew experience in the warships. I tried surfacing on the Mogami in the Torpedo School lesson and the results were disappointing for the Japanese

Looked like the gunners were all drunk!

I then edited the MIS file and gave the Mogami an 'elite' crew. This time when I surfaced the gunnery was deadly accurate and I didn't last very long!

There is definitely something wrong, but it should be a fairly easy fix...though changing the crew skill level of every randomly generated ship in the campaign might not be so easy!

DragonRR1 · 04-22-07, 05:11 PM

Prof... Is the crew type set per task force, per ship or is there the ability to do both?

The entire task force basically ignored me as a wandered between them...

Prof · 04-22-07, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonRR1

Prof... Is the crew type set per task force, per ship or is there the ability to do both?

The entire task force basically ignored me as a wandered between them...

I've just checked the Japanese 1941 campaign layers and the skill level is set per ship. In the default campaign, however, all warships in a task force have the same skill level. Interestingly, all ships in task forces are either veteran (second best) or elite (best). Any destroyers assigned to guard a merchant convoy (not a troop convoy) are either poor or novice (the lowest two!). I guess they send the duffers on merchie escort

What difficulty rating were you on? It may be that the base-level crew skill is modified by the difficulty level you set at the beginning of a career, so if you played on 'easy' then maybe 'elite' becomes more like 'novice'. Just a possibility.

04-22-07, 04:14 PM	#1
DragonRR1 Officer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Strange, non-aggressive AI in a Task Force?? I've done about 6 or 7 patrols with patch 1.2. Generally I've quite enjoyed them.. of course there's a but! I've just done a patrol and came across a huge task force, the Yamoto, at least 4 huge battleships, a number of smaller destroyers, 2 carriers and the odd freighter. I was ahead of the group so I positioned myself for a torpedo run dropped to 200ft and waited. Nervously I rose to periscope depth and launched all my torpedos at the Yamoto and 2 of the other large battleships. 4 hits. I also launched all my aft torpedoes at 2 targets.. Anyway.. to save boring you all to death I ended up with zero torpedos, 1 sunk destroyer, 2 huge battleships or whatever they were listing badly and a holed Yamoto.... Knowing it would be suicide I surfaced to see what would happen. Well not a lot really! I spent nearly all my deck gun ammo on the Yamoto (which didn't sink). Only one ship actually fired at me which was a carrier! Even then there were only 2 shots. What one earth was going on? I've read a couple of posts suggesting that this kind of thing did happen in the war but I should have had swiss cheese made out of me within nano seconds. In the end I just gave up in disgust. I've had more challenges taking on a single armed freighter on the surface... Anyone else experienced this?

04-22-07, 04:43 PM	#3
Scoochy Sparky Join Date: May 2005 Location: San diego Ca. Posts: 150 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Tons of talk about being able to simply surface and hang out. I have actually sustained more damage from a/c than from any warship. Warships don't shoot much, and when they do, they don't hit much. __________________ SH5 Photobucket Slideshow

04-22-07, 05:07 PM	#4
Prof Medic Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	This is all probably to do with the level of crew experience in the warships. I tried surfacing on the Mogami in the Torpedo School lesson and the results were disappointing for the Japanese Looked like the gunners were all drunk! I then edited the MIS file and gave the Mogami an 'elite' crew. This time when I surfaced the gunnery was deadly accurate and I didn't last very long! There is definitely something wrong, but it should be a fairly easy fix...though changing the crew skill level of every randomly generated ship in the campaign might not be so easy! Last edited by Prof; 04-22-07 at 05:18 PM.

04-22-07, 04:40 PM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yeah, it happened to me as well. the big ships don't seem to shoot at all as far as I can tell. CVs are so absurdly easy to sink I've never had any live to have me try to shell them.

04-22-07, 05:11 PM	#5
DragonRR1 Officer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Prof... Is the crew type set per task force, per ship or is there the ability to do both? The entire task force basically ignored me as a wandered between them...