[TEC] The magic weather control key

mcoca · 04-21-07, 05:27 PM

Hi everybody.

I'm using the keyboard function mod, which maps Control-N to "nearest sound contact", and I think I found something really odd.

Every time I use that command while looking outside, the weather changes. To be more precise, it changes to partial clouds, no fog, no rain, 4 m/s wind speed. One moment there are no clouds, the next they are there

Am I the only seeing this? I think it's some kind of developer backdoor, but it sure will help with those month-long storms.

Zantham · 04-21-07, 07:16 PM

Confirmed!! I used it while on the bridge, and it instantly changed the weather, to the same weather you had. One second was clouds clear, no precipitation, light fog, wind 15m/s dir 117....I did Ctrl-N on the bridge, instantly clouds partial, precipitation none, fog none, wind 4m/s dir 0.

I'm using patch 1.2, and several other mods including Ducimus Flavored to Taste 2_2 mod.

Edit: Removed all mods. Started a war patrol. Hit Ctrl-N, and it appeared to do the same thing, tho I couldn't pull up the weather report, the clouds instantly changed just as it did above. And if I recall, in the stock game Ctrl-N isn't actually mapped to anything is it?

CCIP · 04-21-07, 08:03 PM

I haven't had this. I'm starting to suspect this may have something to do with the main.cfg's debugging features being enabled - maybe this is some sort of test code that was originally there. I have them disabled in main.cfg (the one in my documents/sh4/cfg/ - you may want to try that too...

Zantham · 04-21-07, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

I haven't had this. I'm starting to suspect this may have something to do with the main.cfg's debugging features being enabled - maybe this is some sort of test code that was originally there. I have them disabled in main.cfg (the one in my documents/sh4/cfg/ - you may want to try that too...

If you mean the [DEVELOPING] section of the C:\Program Files\...\Data\Cfg\main.cfg mine is set as follows:
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

However I now see there is also a main.cfg file under the SH4\data\cfg directory in My Documents. This one is set the same except MiniDump=Yes. I will change this to No and retest this.

Edit: Removed all mods to get a vanilla 1.2, loaded a war patrol. Weather clear, no clouds. Pressed Ctrl-N and voila...instant clouds. I find it interesting CCIP that you don't get this magic weather key in yours, even in vanilla 1.2?

CCIP · 04-21-07, 08:58 PM

I'm gonna give this a look. I use the key all the time when getting attacked, and while I had the clouds present in all recent attacks I could recall, I do remember seeing varying weather conditions (that sorta made my attacks messy)...

sqk7744 · 04-21-07, 09:02 PM

Bubble bubble toil and trouble, sonar man change this weather on the double!

Confirmed -good find! ...now about the remedy?

*** This Just in:
Stratus Clouds moving from right to left. I press CTRL + N a few times and the coulds seem to rewind back to a reset point at which you can hold them in place on the rightside of screen. hmmm No effect on Windspeed thou. Did (Ctrl + W) while hitting Ctrl+N a few times.

Anyone tried this in an actual storm?

CCIP · 04-21-07, 09:08 PM

Hm. If it's true, then the first thing I'll do is change the sonar shortcuts for a new version of my keyboard control mod (which I was planning to put out tonight anyway with some minor additions) :hmm:

Hartmann · 04-22-07, 01:46 AM

It seems a dev cheat for weather...

and unremoved for the rushed release to the market.

Payoff · 04-22-07, 07:25 AM

I have seen this too. I mapped my own keys & use ctl+N for "Max Range at Current Speed". It will cause the same effect. I just quit using it on the bridge.

CCIP · 04-22-07, 08:11 PM

I can confirm it now too...

What a bizzare function

I'm toying around with the idea (well, I already plugged it into my own game) of mapping a whole bunch of 'trash functions' onto that key so that you can't press it without consequences. A bit of a silly workaround. Should I include it in the next version of my Keyboard mod, or pass on that?

XanderF · 04-23-07, 10:28 AM

Wouldn't bother, I'm sure the devs will fix it (eventually).

Should bring the thread to their attention, though - someone want to PM our visitor dev with the thread link?

tycho102 · 04-23-07, 12:25 PM

That is pretty awesome; I'll have to give it a try. I attack, wind or snow, but man those calm-sea external camera views are splendid.

04-21-07, 05:27 PM	#1
mcoca Loader Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	[TEC] The magic weather control key Hi everybody. I'm using the keyboard function mod, which maps Control-N to "nearest sound contact", and I think I found something really odd. Every time I use that command while looking outside, the weather changes. To be more precise, it changes to partial clouds, no fog, no rain, 4 m/s wind speed. One moment there are no clouds, the next they are there Am I the only seeing this? I think it's some kind of developer backdoor, but it sure will help with those month-long storms.

04-21-07, 08:03 PM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I haven't had this. I'm starting to suspect this may have something to do with the main.cfg's debugging features being enabled - maybe this is some sort of test code that was originally there. I have them disabled in main.cfg (the one in my documents/sh4/cfg/ - you may want to try that too... __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-21-07, 08:58 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I'm gonna give this a look. I use the key all the time when getting attacked, and while I had the clouds present in all recent attacks I could recall, I do remember seeing varying weather conditions (that sorta made my attacks messy)... __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-21-07, 09:02 PM	#6
sqk7744 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ~About 60' below Posts: 1,150 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Bubble bubble toil and trouble, sonar man change this weather on the double! Confirmed -good find! ...now about the remedy? *** This Just in: Stratus Clouds moving from right to left. I press CTRL + N a few times and the coulds seem to rewind back to a reset point at which you can hold them in place on the rightside of screen. hmmm No effect on Windspeed thou. Did (Ctrl + W) while hitting Ctrl+N a few times. Anyone tried this in an actual storm? __________________ " All Ships can dive, but only Submarine's surface!" MODS: KillFlags - Elco PT109 - AOB Attack Course Tutorial Last edited by sqk7744; 04-21-07 at 10:06 PM.

04-21-07, 09:08 PM	#7
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Hm. If it's true, then the first thing I'll do is change the sonar shortcuts for a new version of my keyboard control mod (which I was planning to put out tonight anyway with some minor additions) :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-21-07, 07:16 PM	#2
Zantham 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 283 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 1	Confirmed!! I used it while on the bridge, and it instantly changed the weather, to the same weather you had. One second was clouds clear, no precipitation, light fog, wind 15m/s dir 117....I did Ctrl-N on the bridge, instantly clouds partial, precipitation none, fog none, wind 4m/s dir 0. I'm using patch 1.2, and several other mods including Ducimus Flavored to Taste 2_2 mod. Edit: Removed all mods. Started a war patrol. Hit Ctrl-N, and it appeared to do the same thing, tho I couldn't pull up the weather report, the clouds instantly changed just as it did above. And if I recall, in the stock game Ctrl-N isn't actually mapped to anything is it?

04-22-07, 01:46 AM	#8
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	It seems a dev cheat for weather... and unremoved for the rushed release to the market. __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

04-22-07, 07:25 AM	#9
Payoff Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I have seen this too. I mapped my own keys & use ctl+N for "Max Range at Current Speed". It will cause the same effect. I just quit using it on the bridge. __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

04-22-07, 08:11 PM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I can confirm it now too... What a bizzare function I'm toying around with the idea (well, I already plugged it into my own game) of mapping a whole bunch of 'trash functions' onto that key so that you can't press it without consequences. A bit of a silly workaround. Should I include it in the next version of my Keyboard mod, or pass on that? __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-23-07, 10:28 AM	#11
XanderF Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 554 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Wouldn't bother, I'm sure the devs will fix it (eventually). Should bring the thread to their attention, though - someone want to PM our visitor dev with the thread link? __________________

04-23-07, 12:25 PM	#12
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That is pretty awesome; I'll have to give it a try. I attack, wind or snow, but man those calm-sea external camera views are splendid.