Star Trek: Balance of Terror: DD vs Sub

Gildor · 04-09-07, 01:55 PM

Just watched the original series episode of Star Trk called Balance of Terror. The Enterprise encounters a Romulan ship that just destroyed a Federation Outpost. The Romulan ship can cloak (submerge).

SOme of the corny things related to ASW that made me laugh:

- While the Enterprise waits quietly for the Warbird to run out of energy and decloak, Spock asks for permission to fix some equipment. Kirk says "To work quietly" as if sound can carry through space.
- The Enterprise fires its phasers at the aproximate location of the warbird similar to depth charges
- The warbird commander moves his ship into the tail of a comet without thinking about the fact that this would make him visible.
- The warbird commander jetisons debrie and bodies to try and fool the Enterprise that the warbird was destroyed.
- Kirk orders the Enterprise crew to monitor for the attempt of the warbird to "slip away under us" (In space?)
- The warbird jetisons a nuclear warhead in the path of the Enterprise which was narrowly avoided when Spock recognised it as a trap.

These are just some goofy things I observed. If you get a chance watch the episode and see it from a submarine view.

Enigma · 04-09-07, 02:03 PM

did you notice that part where people were engaging in combat in outer space in futuristic flying battleships and that they had teleport systems, photon guns, and alien species amongst their ranks? That was pretty crazy too.

Sailor Steve · 04-09-07, 04:52 PM

I recognized the story when I first saw it - first-run back in the sixties.

It's called The Enemy Below:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050356/

Platapus · 04-10-07, 07:42 AM

Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

micky1up · 04-10-07, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

you have to remember when the original series camer out they didnt have full time scientists working with the producers to get it all right and in the 60s how much did we really know about space?

Platapus · 04-10-07, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by micky1up

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

you have to remember when the original series camer out they didnt have full time scientists working with the producers to get it all right and in the 60s how much did we really know about space?

Well we knew about docking and rendezvous and spacewalks, as well as Trans Lunar Injection and lunar orbit. We got within 15 Kilometers from the Lunar surface so I figure we knew a little about space.

micky1up · 04-10-07, 08:53 AM

yes we did but we also didnt know about inflation the big bang black holes quasars the list is endless

Gildor · 04-10-07, 09:26 AM

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Star Trek when it first came out when I was a kid.

I just have to remember that science is sometimes "overlooked" for the sake of entertainment.

I can recall my brother pissed at me for "questioning" how the X-Wings and TIE fighters in Star Wars could fly like atmospheric aircraft in the vacumn of space. He was adamant that it could happen.

I guess you have to "dumb down" physics or the general audience would not get it.

Sailor Steve · 04-10-07, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

It wasn't tilting, it was listing...filling up with...um...

LUDDITE!

Platapus · 04-10-07, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

It wasn't tilting, it was listing...filling up with...um...

LUDDITE!

I could just imagine Kirk ordering "Counter flood damnit, counter flood!"

Gildor · 04-10-07, 02:26 PM

Don't laugh. In the episode there is a scene where the weapon control room is "flooding" with some kind of gas (water?) and Spock runs in to save the crew trapped in the compartment and fires the weapons..

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-10-07, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

It wasn't tilting, it was listing...filling up with...um...

Shatners Ego

Platapus · 04-10-07, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

It wasn't tilting, it was listing...filling up with...um...

Shatners Ego

The galaxy would not be big enough

Gildor · 04-10-07, 03:34 PM

OH NO! We are taking on ...ego!

SUBMAN1 · 04-10-07, 03:51 PM

Tilting is to help you visualize the fact the Enterprise is not in a healthy state! Now quit ruining it for me!

04-09-07, 01:55 PM	#1
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Star Trek: Balance of Terror: DD vs Sub Just watched the original series episode of Star Trk called Balance of Terror. The Enterprise encounters a Romulan ship that just destroyed a Federation Outpost. The Romulan ship can cloak (submerge). SOme of the corny things related to ASW that made me laugh: - While the Enterprise waits quietly for the Warbird to run out of energy and decloak, Spock asks for permission to fix some equipment. Kirk says "To work quietly" as if sound can carry through space. - The Enterprise fires its phasers at the aproximate location of the warbird similar to depth charges - The warbird commander moves his ship into the tail of a comet without thinking about the fact that this would make him visible. - The warbird commander jetisons debrie and bodies to try and fool the Enterprise that the warbird was destroyed. - Kirk orders the Enterprise crew to monitor for the attempt of the warbird to "slip away under us" (In space?) - The warbird jetisons a nuclear warhead in the path of the Enterprise which was narrowly avoided when Spock recognised it as a trap. These are just some goofy things I observed. If you get a chance watch the episode and see it from a submarine view. __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

04-09-07, 02:03 PM	#2
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	did you notice that part where people were engaging in combat in outer space in futuristic flying battleships and that they had teleport systems, photon guns, and alien species amongst their ranks? That was pretty crazy too. __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

04-09-07, 04:52 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I recognized the story when I first saw it - first-run back in the sixties. It's called The Enemy Below: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050356/ __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-10-07, 09:26 AM	#8
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Star Trek when it first came out when I was a kid. I just have to remember that science is sometimes "overlooked" for the sake of entertainment. I can recall my brother pissed at me for "questioning" how the X-Wings and TIE fighters in Star Wars could fly like atmospheric aircraft in the vacumn of space. He was adamant that it could happen. I guess you have to "dumb down" physics or the general audience would not get it. __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

04-10-07, 02:26 PM	#11
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don't laugh. In the episode there is a scene where the weapon control room is "flooding" with some kind of gas (water?) and Spock runs in to save the crew trapped in the compartment and fires the weapons.. __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

04-10-07, 07:42 AM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Did you ever notice that in the original Star Trek series, any time the Enterprise was "disabled" in battle, it always tilted... Tilting in space?

04-10-07, 08:53 AM	#7
micky1up Captain Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: helensburgh Posts: 525 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	yes we did but we also didnt know about inflation the big bang black holes quasars the list is endless

04-10-07, 03:34 PM	#14
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	OH NO! We are taking on ...ego! __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

04-10-07, 03:51 PM	#15
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tilting is to help you visualize the fact the Enterprise is not in a healthy state! Now quit ruining it for me! __________________