5 days till the ban in wales

[Penelope_Grey]

Yep thats it, no more smoking in public places then which means my home will be decisively free of passive smoking related unwellness and that terrible coated feeling in your throat being in a smoky club gives you. Bring it on I say. Got to think of others and their wellbeing.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Where I live in Canada, PEI, this has been in place now for a number of years A very good thing

[bookworm_020]

Here in Australia they have staged it. Only a percentage of the club can be smoked in and some areas, like bars and eating areas, can't be smoked in at all.

Most wanted a complete ban, but the pubs and clubs association managed to throw soe weight around with the pollies, so a full ban is a couple of years off.

Bring it on!!! The sooner the better, I say....

[RedMenace]

*GASP*

Giving up your freedom to smoke anywhere you want for the common good of people? Isn't that.... LEFTIST? Doesn't that sound.... COMMUNIST? Arn't you all HORRIFIED?

No but seriously, your lungs say thanks.

[Letum]

No one should have to work in a place where their health is at risk for no good reason. A victory for the good health of every bar worker!

It does not make economic sense for the bars or tobacco companies, but it is always good to regulate capitalism so the people exploit capitalism and capitalism does not exploit the people.

[RedMenace]

Let us drink to victory!

[lesrae]

Enjoy it, when I go up to Scotland with work it's amazing the difference you notice - you can sit in a pub and have a couple of beers without stinking of smoke for the rest of the day, bring on July 1st down here!

Wisconsins working on passing the bill I think over here in America also...


*ducks as the brits chuck an irishman at me*

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Rilder

Wisconsins working on passing the bill I think over here in America also...


*ducks as the brits chuck an irishman at me*

Eh?
Well, this Irishman is glad we were one of the first to get a ban in

[Captain Nemo]

Although I do generally agree with most of your views on this, I fear that eventually this will come back to haunt us with higher taxes on other things. If as is predicted, this ban reduces the number of smokers in the UK, then surely the Government will have to raise the taxes it loses from this by taxing things like alcohol. Remember, the reason the Government taxes cigarettes is because they are bad for your health, alcohol is also bad for your health (especially the quantities it seems young people drink in the UK these days) and it also leads to crime that also affects non-drinkers. For example, has anyone been in Romford on a Friday/Saturday night? I am happy for smokers to carry on smoking, because whilst they do, the Government is not heavily taxing something I enjoy.

Nemo

[jumpy]

Being a relatively recent ex-smoker I have to say I find the ban smoking in public ruse somewhat hypocritical when we have our city centres choked up by loads of traffic fumes... You only have to walk into town to get a hefty dose of diesel exhaust from all of the buses and emissions from other road vehicles. Prohibiting smoking in all of these places seems a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted already. :hmm:

Besides, I've always considered the possibility of getting glassed or stabbed outside any one of Leicester's drinking establishments on any given friday or saturday night far more of a risk to my health than the bloke smoking a fag at the next table. But that's just me.
Where food is being served is a bit different, but on the whole I find the entire exercise to be a rather dubious and more geared around what's currently fashionable to hate and be seen to hate than out of any real concern for improving public health.

If governments are so solicitous regarding the health of their citizens, then why don't they stop pissing about with these namby pamby edicts to 'protect' all an sundry from the evil ill health despot of second hand smoke and actually do something concrete about removing tobacco from public consumption completely?
Ha! on one hand they are saying "it's your choice as an adult to smoke or not" and on the other you are vilified as some kind of pre-emptive child murderer with your despicable dirty habit (and all the while taking your money regardless). Come on, which is it to be?
Meh. I suppose when half measures are the order of the day, who wants to deny their treasury of the billions of pounds in duty and taxes that are currently levied on the sale of cigarettes? And if this source or revenue 'goes up in smoke' (ahaha, just my little joke) then where will the shortfall be recouped from?

TBH there's more questions than answers as far as I can see. At the very least be true in your motivation and carry it forwards in the same manner instead of the current lip service which we are beginning to see in the form of prohibiting smoking in public places. I wonder how long it will be before you get issued a fixed penalty notice for smoking whilst walking down the street? Well those lost taxes have to be made up somewhere don't they heheh. Which kind of brings me to the root of the problem here; it's all about money - were it not for that tobacco would have been ditched years ago as it pushes all of the right buttons as a highly addictive and damaging control substance, like alcohol for instance; but again there's plenty of people who are quite happy to drink to excess and consider it wholely acceptable behaviour around others, both young and old, so I guess it depends entirely on your point of view as to what consists 'good' or healthy behaviour for you or those around you.

On the grand scale of things allegedly protecting peolpe from passive smoke is of very little concern really, out of all of the other things that have a negative influence on your health there's far more immidiate issues which should be addressed.

Now, where are my smokes? damn! I gave up... I suppose those mind control adverts and water additives to make you more suggestable are really working

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Yep thats it, no more smoking in public places then which means my home will be decisively free of passive smoking related unwellness and that terrible coated feeling in your throat being in a smoky club gives you. Bring it on I say. Got to think of others and their wellbeing.

They done the same thing here in New Zealand about 2yrs ago and it works, no smoking in bars clubs, some smaller pubs in the country towns shut down tho as 99% of its publicans smoked so refused to drink their they would buy there alcohol and head home. The smart ones built an open top (no ceiling) smokers bar. Im a smoker but i think no smoking rule is a good thing. Now the govenment is pushing for a Full banning on smokes in the country within 5yrs, if the law passes it will mean tobbacco cannot be sold in NZ.

Im not to worried in fact im hoping this will happen.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Yep thats it, no more smoking in public places then which means my home

Bloody Nanny State running our lives again and telling us all when you can wipe your ars*e, come on people. You are being brainwashed and your letting this corrupt state get away with it!!! What the hell happen to the backbone in this country? Surgically removed by the State in the dead of night. At this rate your need a farting licence to fart in your own home.

Your home is your castle and tell the state to sod off and stop poking it's bloody great big nose in.

You will all be in nappies at this rate.

[The Avon Lady]

I appeal to those of you who are still young and not addicted enough to quit, to think about your potential future as a parent, raising the children who will look up to you as an example.

Brake the chain of smoking while you can. Generations of your future descendants will be grateful you did.

Thank you for stopping to smoke.

Every cigarette is doing you damage.

[fredbass]

Well now I know where I will NOT be taking my tourist money. (Wales)