hottest game?

So this game is really hot? Funny, but it is at our two Wal-Marts and the games are just sitting there. I almost bought one - then I didn't. Why? Because so far none of the screen shots or movies I have seen look as good as the old SH3. The interior shots look more cartoony. I read about all the flaws - men calling out numbers over and over and torpedoes hitting or missing aft. Something about the game just doesn't seem right - and no one complains about magnetic torpedoes failing - which they did at a rate of 70% at during the first year and a half of the war. The number of reported flaws seems to exceed anything that first appeared in SH3. And yet what I see on screen looks like just another mission with SH3 with different flags, but worse art. Even the depth charges are too powerful - and yet Japan used tiny DCs until late.

I just can't bring myself to do it. I feel like this time I have to wait until Ubi coughs up the fixes (I still hate the fact that SH3 was never really fixed and was left with only Patch 1.4) or until mods finally catch up. What I see is that mods are going to take a long while to fix this thing - just as it took on SH3. I don't even want to mod on this thing.

Then it hit me why the games are just sitting on the shelves: for most people this is just SH3 reloaded. Nothing truly creative has been added. Many of the same lacks in SH3 just reappear in SH4. Still no worry about Japanese subs attacking US subs, cause still no AI for it. Do I want to continue this Ubi thing? Maybe not. One thing is for sure - at the rate the game is sticking to the store shelves, I can always take my time and buy into it latter.

And then there is the fact that I can no longer use Windows 2000 if I load this game. Some of us detest XP and especially Beasta.

What did they do to the art - why is it so two D and lifeless? Good bye Ubi

[GreyOctober]

Ah dont be so negative...just think pink . Yes, game is buggy but this community is working hard to address the issues...there are a number of improvements already. Did you take a look at the mod list? More over, a patch is coming soon and things will be on the right track again. Im confident that SH4 will be of the same caliber with SH3.

"And then there is the fact that I can no longer use Windows 2000 if I load this game. Some of us detest XP and especially Beasta."
Technology is moving onward, just keep up with the trend

What did they do to the art - why is it so two D and lifeless?
Just a matter of taste. a song to cheer you up.

"Good bye Ubi"
We'll leave the door open for you. Im sure you'll be back.

All the best.
Grey

[nimitstexan]

Not sure, but graphics-wise you may be reacting to the Post-Processing, which gives that game that (silly) 1940s movie film look. Evidently some (maybe most) people like it, but those of us who prefer more life-like visuals can turn it off, and the game does look very good.

[Boris]

Post processing or not, I don't see why some people still think SH3 looked better. Looking at SH3 screenshots now, it looks so much more primitive.

[Sailor Steve]

I agree with Boris: I still love SH3 but all the screenies and videos of SH4 I've seen look great!

[Cakewalk]

SH4 with post processing enabled is beautiful.

[AVGWarhawk]

@WaveS

Sorry to here that man. I love the game myself. I have sunk 4 merchants on my second partrol using the stadimeter and torpedoes. I have no issue with it quite honestly. My PK works fine with slow torpedoes. I alway use slow on my torps. That is just me. Furthermore, my speed of target was dead on, AOB dead on, distance to target dead on. Four torps sent and for torps score. This was in manual unassisted targeting. It was a beautiful thing!! I truely have a great time. I do not experience men calling out numbers all the time. I have but one issue and it is the "a" key CTD.

Graphics with post processing filtering Just beautiful and a new face on gaming.
Campaign diversity is . Having loads of fun making my appointed rounds

Immersiveness Very immersive in my view

Overall game play dispite a bug or two Very satifying.

I score it an 8 after 20 some odd hours of playing.

Your loss sir and as far as hot....it is the hottest thing on my hard drive at the moment

[Banquet]

heh, well said AVGWarhawk

I went back to SH3 to see how it looked after SH4. I was expecting the water to be the main thing that looked more primitive but actually it was more the atmosphere of the graphics. In SH3 the trees on the shore looked too bright compared to SH4. SH4 has a lovely fade on distant objects. It's hard to explain but SH3 almost looked too clean and clinical compared to SH4. It does still look beautiful though and I will certainly be returning for more patrols in the Atlantic many times in the future. Everyone has a different opinion on good graphics based on their own taste.. and each opinion is equally valid.

[MikeJW]

Funny, no matter how hot a PC game is it always seems to sit there at Wal-Mart. Whats your point? SH4 graphics are leaps ahead of Sh3. I dont care what SS you've seen. Actual in game graphics blow SH3 away and the counting crewmen and a lot of the suppoused bugs are copy protection. Sorry that pirates problems are keeping you away from the game. Sure theres bugs. I've not bought a PC game that doesnt have bugs. And how do you know just from SS that its the same as SH3 just with different flags? I guess they would look the same from screens since theres only so many ways to do a sub sim but its different enough. Different missions other than "patrol QRZ2 for 24 hrs" is worth it to me. Sorry, but I dont agree with eiter your tone or opinions.

[Iron Budokan]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

@WaveS

Sorry to here that man. I love the game myself. I have sunk 4 merchants on my second partrol using the stadimeter and torpedoes. I have no issue with it quite honestly. My PK works fine with slow torpedoes. I alway use slow on my torps. That is just me. Furthermore, my speed of target was dead on, AOB dead on, distance to target dead on. Four torps sent and for torps score. This was in manual unassisted targeting. It was a beautiful thing!! I truely have a great time. I do not experience men calling out numbers all the time. I have but one issue and it is the "a" key CTD.

Graphics with post processing filtering Just beautiful and a new face on gaming.
Campaign diversity is . Having loads of fun making my appointed rounds

Immersiveness Very immersive in my view

Overall game play dispite a bug or two Very satifying.

I score it an 8 after 20 some odd hours of playing.

Your loss sir and as far as hot....it is the hottest thing on my hard drive at the moment

I'm about ready to take on manual, too, but could you please tell me how you get the speed since we can't use the stopwatch? Thanks!

[Iron Budokan]

I sure wouldn't go by what game sells or doesn't sell at Wal-Mart of all places.

[vois2]

Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

. . . could you please tell me how you get the speed since we can't use the stopwatch? Thanks!

Here is a post in the following sentence (which in turn references a second post) and has all the info you need to find speed of target. (On this clickable link, look for the post by vois2 on 03-31-2007, 01:03 AM).

[Iron Budokan]

Thank you!

[darksythe]

As far as not using windoze 2k it simply aint true im running on 2k with sh4 now, and its no buggier then peeps with xp / wishta(i wishta be the new OS i wishta wishta wishta:rotfl

[Drokkon]

I used to play Aces of the Deep and SH1. I had both on my machine. If I felt like convoy action I played Aces, if I felt like hunting warships I played SH1. I'm sure SH3 and SH4 will iron out to be the same thing for me. I think these games come down to what you want to hunt.