Angle of bow

melin71 · 03-18-07, 01:46 PM

I saw a video..and i cant find it again. there the people made the silent hunter 4 show stuff in the game. and one is showing a attack with the pericsop..and he just guessed what the AOB was...are the or are the not any tool to get the angel of bow in this new game. it was missed in sh3 but a mod did fix that. but you that have the game..how is it with this?

Avatar · 03-18-07, 02:03 PM

I know in WW2, the sub captains estimated AOB. Are you speaking of a tool like the Stadimeter station in Dangerous Waters?
sorry, I wish I could help more.

NefariousKoel · 03-18-07, 02:16 PM

Dunno..

I usually noted numerous locations over a few minutes to get their heading, lined up a shot ahead of the target and measured the AoB from where it would be sitting when I fire.

melin71 · 03-18-07, 02:20 PM

ok. so i have to guess in sh4...... and im very very very bad at that

Avatar · 03-19-07, 01:29 PM

Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.

Threadfin · 03-19-07, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.

Don't recall that, where did you see it? What he did as far as I know was have someone make a lazy susan type device upon which was affixed a ship model with graduated AoB markings on the base. He then sat and and looked at that model through his binocluars and practiced estimating the AoB as another crewman turned the model.

And yes, US skippers 'called' the AoB, meaning estimated by visual observation. That's what I always did in SH3, so am ready to do so in SH4.

An easy way to do it is to think of yourself on the bridge of the target, looking at the sub. What angle off the bow is the sub? That is the AoB.

nattydread · 03-19-07, 11:43 PM

Yeah, practice, practice, practice. You'll get good at it real quick. One thing I have noticed is that often times games have a problem accuratly displaying 3D models for really good AoB estimates until the object is up close and in high detail.

I dont know if its a dynamic shading issue or what, but I get issues with the object looking as if it could be both coming and going until its close and drawn in high detail....maybe its just me

OneTinSoldier · 03-20-07, 02:49 AM

Yeah, I have the same problem nattydread, exactly the same. I was hoping that the higher detailed ships in SHIV with bump mapping might help, but I canceled my Amazon.com pre-order.

I'm a little upset with what seems to be a deceptive claim of 'higher resolutions'(above 1024x768). Perhaps if and when I calm down about that I might change my mind, but for right now I feel I can't trust them(Ubi/Devs) at all.

Threadfin · 03-20-07, 09:36 AM

I think that 'coming or going' phenomenon is just natural for a silhouetted object.

Avatar · 03-20-07, 12:00 PM

The book that O'Kane used to practice AoB is "Wahoo."
I think he's in one of the Australian bases.

-Pv- · 03-20-07, 11:27 PM

On top of trying to guess the angle based on observation, the camo paint was purposely designed to try and fool a person into guessing the wrong angle or wrong size of the ship. If you guess wrong once in a while, then that validates the accuracy of the sim.
-Pv-

OneTinSoldier · 03-21-07, 12:52 AM

Ohhh! That is very interesting and good to know -Pv-. Thank you!

03-18-07, 01:46 PM	#1
melin71 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 135 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Angle of bow I saw a video..and i cant find it again. there the people made the silent hunter 4 show stuff in the game. and one is showing a attack with the pericsop..and he just guessed what the AOB was...are the or are the not any tool to get the angel of bow in this new game. it was missed in sh3 but a mod did fix that. but you that have the game..how is it with this?

03-18-07, 02:16 PM	#3
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Dunno.. I usually noted numerous locations over a few minutes to get their heading, lined up a shot ahead of the target and measured the AoB from where it would be sitting when I fire. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

03-20-07, 02:49 AM	#8
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I have the same problem nattydread, exactly the same. I was hoping that the higher detailed ships in SHIV with bump mapping might help, but I canceled my Amazon.com pre-order. I'm a little upset with what seems to be a deceptive claim of 'higher resolutions'(above 1024x768). Perhaps if and when I calm down about that I might change my mind, but for right now I feel I can't trust them(Ubi/Devs) at all. __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-20-07, 09:36 AM	#9
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I think that 'coming or going' phenomenon is just natural for a silhouetted object. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

03-21-07, 12:52 AM	#12
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Ohhh! That is very interesting and good to know -Pv-. Thank you! __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-18-07, 02:03 PM	#2
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I know in WW2, the sub captains estimated AOB. Are you speaking of a tool like the Stadimeter station in Dangerous Waters? sorry, I wish I could help more.

03-18-07, 02:20 PM	#4
melin71 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 135 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	ok. so i have to guess in sh4...... and im very very very bad at that

03-19-07, 01:29 PM	#5
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.

03-19-07, 11:43 PM	#7
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yeah, practice, practice, practice. You'll get good at it real quick. One thing I have noticed is that often times games have a problem accuratly displaying 3D models for really good AoB estimates until the object is up close and in high detail. I dont know if its a dynamic shading issue or what, but I get issues with the object looking as if it could be both coming and going until its close and drawn in high detail....maybe its just me

03-20-07, 12:00 PM	#10
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The book that O'Kane used to practice AoB is "Wahoo." I think he's in one of the Australian bases.

03-20-07, 11:27 PM	#11
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	On top of trying to guess the angle based on observation, the camo paint was purposely designed to try and fool a person into guessing the wrong angle or wrong size of the ship. If you guess wrong once in a while, then that validates the accuracy of the sim. -Pv-