Same sounds as sh3

codmander · 03-09-07, 07:51 AM

In that movie I noticed a lot of the same sounds as sh3

and the smoke blew away at 100 mph on a flat calm

but that can be fixed explosions looked good :hmm: and sea bottom cool :hmm: crew looked excellent!

ships detail was excellent

flintlock · 03-09-07, 07:59 AM

Definitely a lot of recycled sounds there. Considering SH4 is a stand-alone full release and not being sold as an expansion to SH3, I'm surprised at the reclaiming of SH3's old sounds. To be fair though, that in-game clip was from a beta build, so hopefully Pacific theatre and US sub appropriate sounds made it into the final build (though based on Ubi's track record, I'm not holding my breath).

Let's give Ubisoft the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully we're in for a pleasant surprise.

Drebbel · 03-09-07, 07:59 AM

I noticed the fast smoke too. And why the heck did the USN buy the diesels in Germany, they sound just like the uboat ones in SHIII

AJ! · 03-09-07, 08:07 AM

Yeah i am kinda worried now.. concidering the Dev team said there was still lots to do after it went gold

It seems an awful lot of sounds have been reused, from the torp launch to the hatch closing when diving

Hitman · 03-09-07, 09:24 AM

I also thought that first when I saw the video, but then I remembered that it was a purpose built video, edited with added music and such. May be the sound capture was not good enough (Or even inexistent to save memory...also does FRAPS capture sound???) and the sounds were added later...

Anyway sounds were external sound files -uncoded- in SH3 and I suppose they still are in SH4 so it will be some of the easiest to mod.

Edited to add: That riiiiiiiiiiiiiing from the bell comes surely from SH3, I think that in US boats it was a claxon that sounded several times, not a continuous "ring". Probably that all comes from SH3 and was added to the video....

hyperion2206 · 03-09-07, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AJ!

Yeah i am kinda worried now.. concidering the Dev team said there was still lots to do after it went gold

It seems an awful lot of sounds have been reused, from the torp launch to the hatch closing when diving

Why would an American hatch make a different noise than a German one? Why should a torpedo launch from an US sub sound different than a torpedo launch from a German sub?

joea · 03-09-07, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206

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Originally Posted by AJ!

Yeah i am kinda worried now.. concidering the Dev team said there was still lots to do after it went gold

It seems an awful lot of sounds have been reused, from the torp launch to the hatch closing when diving

Why would an American hatch make a different noise than a German one? Why should a torpedo launch from an US sub sound different than a torpedo launch from a German sub?

Indeed.

elanaiba · 03-09-07, 10:00 AM

Technically, the germans put a piston head behind the torpedo, this limiting the problem of air escaping from the tube but also making the reload much more difficult.

So I suppose that when the piston head hits the end of the tube, you might get a different sound vs the US subs.

Laffertytig · 03-09-07, 10:47 AM

my biggest sound gripe with SH3 was the lack of any destroyer props when u were submerged. the only time u heard them was when the dd was directly overhead. i dunno how many hours i spent messin about with sound files so i could hear a dd at distance getin closer and closer. SH1 was fine and i think SH2 was ok as well but not SH3.

surely it cant be that hard to make a distant sound quiet and as it gets closer it gets louder

OneTinSoldier · 03-09-07, 06:10 PM

Hmmm, well what you describe Laffertytig is exactly what I get in SHIII! Maybe not from a huge distance(300-400 meters or so?), but I can most certainly here a DD drawing nearer and growing distant as it moves overhead(within a few hundred meters or so). I can even tell what direction it's moving in!

Did you ever consider it may be your hardware? I list my sound hardware below.

Cheers

Creative Audigy2 Platinum Soundcard with Driver version 02.09.0016, Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speakers

Kruger · 03-09-07, 06:32 PM

I was desappointed to see that flag waving on the mast in the same position even underwater. Also.....the ships bouncing on the seafloor after sinking....c'mon

Laffertytig · 03-09-07, 07:12 PM

could be the case but i recently purchased a new motherboard with onboard sound and still suffer the problem. maybe a soundcard is required to play SH3 to its full potential.

to kruger

dont mean to be bad but just had to mention, what did your post have to this with this thread?

Kruger · 03-10-07, 05:37 AM

cos' I did not want to open another one.

THE_MASK · 03-10-07, 05:42 AM

The same sounds as SH3 for SH4 would be absolutely crap crap crap and double crap .

The General · 03-10-07, 07:02 AM

Well, if they have recycled the sound FX, then that's ok. I think they spent all their time on improving the really important stuff like the mission/campaign structure. The Modding community can add their own, acurate sound FX anyway.

03-09-07, 07:51 AM	#1
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Same sounds as sh3 In that movie I noticed a lot of the same sounds as sh3 and the smoke blew away at 100 mph on a flat calm but that can be fixed explosions looked good :hmm: and sea bottom cool :hmm: crew looked excellent! ships detail was excellent

03-09-07, 08:07 AM	#4
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah i am kinda worried now.. concidering the Dev team said there was still lots to do after it went gold It seems an awful lot of sounds have been reused, from the torp launch to the hatch closing when diving __________________

03-09-07, 09:24 AM	#5
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	I also thought that first when I saw the video, but then I remembered that it was a purpose built video, edited with added music and such. May be the sound capture was not good enough (Or even inexistent to save memory...also does FRAPS capture sound???) and the sounds were added later... Anyway sounds were external sound files -uncoded- in SH3 and I suppose they still are in SH4 so it will be some of the easiest to mod. Edited to add: That riiiiiiiiiiiiiing from the bell comes surely from SH3, I think that in US boats it was a claxon that sounded several times, not a continuous "ring". Probably that all comes from SH3 and was added to the video.... __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

03-09-07, 06:10 PM	#10
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Hmmm, well what you describe Laffertytig is exactly what I get in SHIII! Maybe not from a huge distance(300-400 meters or so?), but I can most certainly here a DD drawing nearer and growing distant as it moves overhead(within a few hundred meters or so). I can even tell what direction it's moving in! Did you ever consider it may be your hardware? I list my sound hardware below. Cheers Creative Audigy2 Platinum Soundcard with Driver version 02.09.0016, Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speakers __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-09-07, 07:59 AM	#2
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Definitely a lot of recycled sounds there. Considering SH4 is a stand-alone full release and not being sold as an expansion to SH3, I'm surprised at the reclaiming of SH3's old sounds. To be fair though, that in-game clip was from a beta build, so hopefully Pacific theatre and US sub appropriate sounds made it into the final build (though based on Ubi's track record, I'm not holding my breath). Let's give Ubisoft the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully we're in for a pleasant surprise.

03-09-07, 07:59 AM	#3
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I noticed the fast smoke too. And why the heck did the USN buy the diesels in Germany, they sound just like the uboat ones in SHIII

03-09-07, 10:00 AM	#8
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Technically, the germans put a piston head behind the torpedo, this limiting the problem of air escaping from the tube but also making the reload much more difficult. So I suppose that when the piston head hits the end of the tube, you might get a different sound vs the US subs.

03-09-07, 10:47 AM	#9
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	my biggest sound gripe with SH3 was the lack of any destroyer props when u were submerged. the only time u heard them was when the dd was directly overhead. i dunno how many hours i spent messin about with sound files so i could hear a dd at distance getin closer and closer. SH1 was fine and i think SH2 was ok as well but not SH3. surely it cant be that hard to make a distant sound quiet and as it gets closer it gets louder

03-09-07, 06:32 PM	#11
Kruger Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 476 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I was desappointed to see that flag waving on the mast in the same position even underwater. Also.....the ships bouncing on the seafloor after sinking....c'mon

03-09-07, 07:12 PM	#12
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	could be the case but i recently purchased a new motherboard with onboard sound and still suffer the problem. maybe a soundcard is required to play SH3 to its full potential. to kruger dont mean to be bad but just had to mention, what did your post have to this with this thread?

03-10-07, 05:37 AM	#13
Kruger Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 476 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	cos' I did not want to open another one.

03-10-07, 05:42 AM	#14
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	The same sounds as SH3 for SH4 would be absolutely crap crap crap and double crap .

03-10-07, 07:02 AM	#15
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Well, if they have recycled the sound FX, then that's ok. I think they spent all their time on improving the really important stuff like the mission/campaign structure. The Modding community can add their own, acurate sound FX anyway.