Bush Administration's Job

[loynokid]

What does everyone think of Bushe's job on the war on terror?

There have not been any terrorist attacks on the US since September 11, 2001, so in my estimation he is doing a good job.

[Tchocky]

This thread should be interesting :hmm:
Here's a spanner; isn't the concept of a "war on terror" a bit of a stretch?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/...997397,00.html
Just an idea.

Originally Posted by waste gate

There have not been any terrorist attacks on the US since September 11, 2001, so in my estimation he is doing a good job.

I have a rock in my pocket that protects me from tigers

[CCIP]

That depends on what 'War on Terror' presupposes. If the war was intended to kick certain specific terrorists out of certain specific places and take down Saddam along with them, then it still hasn't reached it's goal completely though is part-way there. If it was intended to reduce the number of terrorists and anti-American elements in the world, then it resoundlingly flopped and needs to be completely redirected. :hmm:

I do believe America became safer on some counts, no doubt, but the war created completely new liabilities and destabilized the situation in the middle east more severely than the Bush administration is willing to admit.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

the sept 11 attacks you have to admit were evil, that was crossing the line. i heard from my cousin shes in university and when she went down to new york on a university field trip (shes into international politics) she visited the world trade center gorund zero, and what was very odd she said when she got there there was a errie feeling in the air and she had cold shivers down her spine, her friends also said the same thing, they knew that this place is a grave of close to 3000 people, she was freaked out by it and they left after about 5 min walking around.


Bush aint doing a good job, sure there havent been terror attacks agaisnt US soil but there ave been terror attacks in madrid and london and tokyo (sarin gas attack), hes striing up problems with iran and north korea.

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

Bush aint doing a good job, sure there havent been terror attacks agaisnt US soil but there ave been terror attacks in madrid and london and tokyo (sarin gas attack), hes striing up problems with iran and north korea.

Unless you're talking about the first Bush, the Sarin attacks were before GWB's time.


I voted "Yes, doing an acceptable job."

[geetrue]

Just twenty-two (22) more months and the next president will be able to blame President Bush for everything ...

American armed forces are in Iraq and Afganistan and we have Iran surrounded.

The enemy has attacked Spain and India and they look like fools in England and we are suppose to be afraid ...

Originally Posted by wisdom

"Faith and fear are a lot alike ..."

"In the small moment of time that it takes to replace each other"

"Click"

"They are just alike ..."

President Bush is doing better than what Gore or Kerry would've done ...

[loynokid]

Originally Posted by geetrue

Just twenty-two (22) more months and the next president will be able to blame President Bush for everything ...

American armed forces are in Iraq and Afganistan and we have Iran surrounded.

The enemy has attacked Spain and India and they look like fools in England and we are suppose to be afraid ...

President Bush is doing better than what Gore or Kerry would've done ...

Right on 100%

[dean_acheson]

Bush aint doing a good job, sure there havent been terror attacks agaisnt US soil but there ave been terror attacks in madrid and london and tokyo (sarin gas attack), hes striing up problems with iran and north korea.[/quote]


Yeah, we all know that PRK and Iran weren't really problems before 2001....

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

Bush aint doing a good job, sure there havent been terror attacks agaisnt US soil but there ave been terror attacks in madrid and london and tokyo (sarin gas attack), hes striing up problems with iran and north korea.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html

1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. 14 were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration.

1982–1991 Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.

1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait: Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.

1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. 2 Americans killed.

1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.

1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.

1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.

1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.

1995
April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly 2 years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.)
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.

1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.

1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.

2000
Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.

[baggygreen]

sonar i think i've missed the point of your post...:hmm:

[Boris]

I think the point is, terrorism has been going on for years.

[dean_acheson]

Sonar,
My point was the same as yours in my post above yours. I'm afraid that I am just a bit too lazy to point out the obvious sometimes, or draw up timelines. I used to enjoy doing such things, but as I get older, it isn't as much fun.....

I like the President, that is possibly because I am old enough to remember the last one, and motivated enough to read about the jack@## that was President in '79 and know how he handled the situation. Bush might make mistakes, but at least he is attempting to say, if you bomb us, we will bomb you back, and he isn't embarrassed by being an American, which is more than I can say for Carter or Clinton.

Then again, I am a jingoistic hillbilly w/o the surperior reasoning ability of my old big-city buddies that I met in law school.

[geetrue]

Your alright Dean, I don't care what Jimmy said about you ... lol

You don't still hold it against him for those helicopters crashing into each other out in the middle of no where
(therefore aborting their mission) do you?

[tycho102]

Originally Posted by CCIP

destabilized the situation in the middle east

This is the only good thing so far in the "War on Terror". It's like pitting all the Columbian and Mexican drug cartels against each other in the "War on Drugs".

Hot, hot, hot druggie on druggie action.