688I vs. Collins Class SS - Any tips?

heartc · 02-18-07, 08:05 AM

Hi there!

Usually I'm a flightsim guy, but I've also had lots of WWII subsim sessions in the past, mainly SHI and SHIII.
Recently I've decided to check out their modern counterparts in DW, so I'm still new to this but slowly I'm coming to grips with all the gizmos that come with the modern hardware. TMA took a while though...

Currently I'm on a Quick mission in the Barents Sea, commanding a 688I. Mission is ASW Barrier Search. I'm using manual stations except for the active intercept station, you know, the one where you intercept pings from active sources. My target (as I found out after saving and exiting the mission) is a Collins Class Diesel Electric Sub. Now after reading something about it, I know why I never picked him up on Passive Sonar. All I had were 2 Oilers. After I sailed along the search area for hours, I got bored and finally gave in to send out one active ping. Lo and behold, in addition to the 2 oilers I've already tracked down I got that tiny return signal bearing 025, 27k yards. I figured it would be pointless to launch from this range, so I decided to close in somewhat. Except there was indeed a torpedo coming down my bearing. But it went active somewhat early and was easy to avoid, I guess it caught on to my CMs at 3000 yards out and I was off at a course of 310, before returning to target bearing 025 and firing two torps myself, one active and one passive (does this make sense?). When they were still running their search patterns beyond the suspected target's position, and after turning the active one around without any results, I decided to scuttle them lest they hit one of the oilers, even though they were far out, but I was not positively sure about their position anymore at this point.

So, since this is my most fun mission yet and the first one where after learning TMA I do have *some* idea of what is happening around me, my question is, what would you do next? Just continue in on the last known position of the target? What max speed is advisable? Will I be able to detect him first on passive sonar? Seems like the Collins Class is...uhm...*quiet*. I guess he's also running (or rather sneaking) down my bearing now. BTW, difficulty is set to medium.

Also: What is the point of passive torpedoes? Since they are pretty loud, no one will have any trouble to detect them on Passive Sonar anyway, so I would think I should just fire active ones, no?

02-18-07, 08:05 AM	#1
heartc Samurai Navy Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Munich Posts: 562 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	688I vs. Collins Class SS - Any tips? Hi there! Usually I'm a flightsim guy, but I've also had lots of WWII subsim sessions in the past, mainly SHI and SHIII. Recently I've decided to check out their modern counterparts in DW, so I'm still new to this but slowly I'm coming to grips with all the gizmos that come with the modern hardware. TMA took a while though... Currently I'm on a Quick mission in the Barents Sea, commanding a 688I. Mission is ASW Barrier Search. I'm using manual stations except for the active intercept station, you know, the one where you intercept pings from active sources. My target (as I found out after saving and exiting the mission) is a Collins Class Diesel Electric Sub. Now after reading something about it, I know why I never picked him up on Passive Sonar. All I had were 2 Oilers. After I sailed along the search area for hours, I got bored and finally gave in to send out one active ping. Lo and behold, in addition to the 2 oilers I've already tracked down I got that tiny return signal bearing 025, 27k yards. I figured it would be pointless to launch from this range, so I decided to close in somewhat. Except there was indeed a torpedo coming down my bearing. But it went active somewhat early and was easy to avoid, I guess it caught on to my CMs at 3000 yards out and I was off at a course of 310, before returning to target bearing 025 and firing two torps myself, one active and one passive (does this make sense?). When they were still running their search patterns beyond the suspected target's position, and after turning the active one around without any results, I decided to scuttle them lest they hit one of the oilers, even though they were far out, but I was not positively sure about their position anymore at this point. So, since this is my most fun mission yet and the first one where after learning TMA I do have some idea of what is happening around me, my question is, what would you do next? Just continue in on the last known position of the target? What max speed is advisable? Will I be able to detect him first on passive sonar? Seems like the Collins Class is...uhm...quiet. I guess he's also running (or rather sneaking) down my bearing now. BTW, difficulty is set to medium. Also: What is the point of passive torpedoes? Since they are pretty loud, no one will have any trouble to detect them on Passive Sonar anyway, so I would think I should just fire active ones, no? Last edited by heartc; 02-18-07 at 08:15 AM.