Sonar operator in GWX, is he asleep?

rocco · 02-07-07, 11:13 AM

Hello,

I just installed GWX a few days ago, I have a problem with my sonarman.

The seas are calm (and I mean dead calm, 0 m/sec), the operator has
the sonar qualification, but he can't hear past about 8 km. I had a Large
Cargo steaming at 6 knots on a bearing of about 272 (almost dead to port).
For some reason the sonar operator didn't pick him up until he was inside
8 km

.

I just followed him with the scope, but still...

I think this is why I had such a hard time intercepting convoys so far, one convoy
I set intercepts that definitely should have found them (I even reloaded several
times to try again and again) but couldn't locate them (seas were moderate but
fog was heavy).

Is this a common or known problem in GWX?

edit: I was moving at ahead slow, 3 knots.

Thanks,

Rocco

02-07-07, 11:49 AM

For me the Sonarman works fine...

Maybe he´s tired or still "green" and has no experience? But more than 8km should be no Problem...

Im not sure, but Ive made the experience that my Sonarguy can hear better at 25-30m than at Periscope depth...

rocco · 02-07-07, 11:56 AM

Well, he wasn't tired, but it is my first patrol. I did dive down to 20 meters,
but that didn't help him.

I noticed manning the station manually, it was harder to hear the contact
in GWX than in stock.

Rocco

raduz · 02-07-07, 11:58 AM

it happened to me once when I thought I was deep enough but in fact, I was almost surfaced, at 9 m. of course, the hydrophone didnt work and the SO couldnot report anything...

AVGWarhawk · 02-07-07, 02:22 PM

Some had said it was a little harder to hear (yourself at the phone) with GWX. I have not experienced it. Anyway, get a petty officer and make him a radio operator. Looks like a little lightning bolt. Make him strong with medals and of course patrols. He will hear just fine.

andy_311 · 02-07-07, 06:31 PM

He works fine for me no problem.

HEMISENT · 02-07-07, 09:32 PM

I had the problem where after installing GWX my sonarman could hear allright but when I manned the station I couldn't hear a DD beyond 8-10km. Very odd as previously, in the right conditions I could vaguely hear sounds out to 20+ km. Anyway, I took all the ship _hyd sounds and increased them in sound recorder. Now I'm at least back to being able to hear the ships at a respectable distance. Convoys once more can be picked up at the high 20's or even 30km.

Jager · 02-08-07, 01:00 AM

Is he asleep you ask ?

Well, you know on most boats, "Becks" is stored under the Capitan's bed which is right near the sonar position

I'd say he is drunk most of the time

High Voltage · 02-08-07, 01:04 AM

Easy one.
Is Bernard your sonar man? You'll be able to tell as he'll have the headphones on over his nose and the back of his head!

Mooncatt · 02-08-07, 04:09 AM

i have trouble with mine too, even at short range i ask sonar man to follow nearest sound contact and he says "no sound contact" but if i manually use hydraphones the contact is there clear as day

Jimbuna · 02-08-07, 08:38 AM

The sonarman is the first qualification and promotion I go for

Always ensure you have a second guy suitably qualified and keep em fresh not fatigued

GreyBeard · 02-08-07, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooncatt

i have trouble with mine too, even at short range i ask sonar man to follow nearest sound contact and he says "no sound contact" but if i manually use hydraphones the contact is there clear as day

I have that exact same scenario. I wonder how many ships have passed me by without my knowledge simply because the sonar guy didn't hear them. Although I must admit that when I hear a ship and sonar doesn't I've no idea what the range is. I have now taken to doing sonar checks intermittently rather than relying on solely on my sonar guy. I have also noticed that by enabling ambient volume it seems easier to hear ships. Maybe that's just me or maybe it's the key to why the sonar guy has poor hearing.

AVGWarhawk · 02-08-07, 10:46 AM

All I can say is this, when I upgraded my phones and put in a petty officer with the lighting bolt for the radio operator, he works just fine. The biggest difference was the phone upgrade

rocco · 02-08-07, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager

Is he asleep you ask ?

Well, you know on most boats, "Becks" is stored under the Capitan's bed which is right near the sonar position

I'd say he is drunk most of the time

That Bastard!! Didn't even offer to share!! At least he didn't find my stash
of Budweiser.

So from the sounds of it, somethings not quite right. He is a petty officer with
the sonar ability, and he is not fatigued. Sea is calm, boat travelling at 3 knots at
periscope depth, even descending to 20 meters not helping. It is also hard to hear
on the hydrophones manually, which only one other person said he noticed (but
his sonar guy could hear fine).

I'm guessing I should wipe out the install and try again. I also had a problem
when I first started a patrol on GWX where I selected 2nd Flot. in Oct. 1940
in Lorient. It started me at Kiel in a type II/D. I started up this second
career the same way but it started me correctly in a IX/B at Lorient (the strange
thing, though, is some of the saves that show up on the load screen list me
as a type II).

Something must have gotten corrupted or something.

Thanks everyone,

Rocco

02-07-07, 11:13 AM	#1
rocco Seaman Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Sonar operator in GWX, is he asleep? Hello, I just installed GWX a few days ago, I have a problem with my sonarman. The seas are calm (and I mean dead calm, 0 m/sec), the operator has the sonar qualification, but he can't hear past about 8 km. I had a Large Cargo steaming at 6 knots on a bearing of about 272 (almost dead to port). For some reason the sonar operator didn't pick him up until he was inside 8 km . I just followed him with the scope, but still... I think this is why I had such a hard time intercepting convoys so far, one convoy I set intercepts that definitely should have found them (I even reloaded several times to try again and again) but couldn't locate them (seas were moderate but fog was heavy). Is this a common or known problem in GWX? edit: I was moving at ahead slow, 3 knots. Thanks, Rocco

02-07-07, 02:22 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Some had said it was a little harder to hear (yourself at the phone) with GWX. I have not experienced it. Anyway, get a petty officer and make him a radio operator. Looks like a little lightning bolt. Make him strong with medals and of course patrols. He will hear just fine. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-07-07, 09:32 PM	#7
HEMISENT Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 1,052 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	I had the problem where after installing GWX my sonarman could hear allright but when I manned the station I couldn't hear a DD beyond 8-10km. Very odd as previously, in the right conditions I could vaguely hear sounds out to 20+ km. Anyway, I took all the ship _hyd sounds and increased them in sound recorder. Now I'm at least back to being able to hear the ships at a respectable distance. Convoys once more can be picked up at the high 20's or even 30km. __________________ Nuke 'em till they glow!

02-08-07, 01:00 AM	#8
Jager Loader Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land of "Freezing my rear off" Posts: 89 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Is he asleep you ask ? Well, you know on most boats, "Becks" is stored under the Capitan's bed which is right near the sonar position I'd say he is drunk most of the time __________________

02-08-07, 01:04 AM	#9
High Voltage Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U-33. Depth Charges...sinking.. Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Easy one. Is Bernard your sonar man? You'll be able to tell as he'll have the headphones on over his nose and the back of his head! __________________ The new-moon night is black as ink. Off Hatteras the tankers sink. While sadly Roosevelt counts the score-- Some fifty thousand tons--by MOHR

02-07-07, 11:49 AM	#2
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	For me the Sonarman works fine... Maybe he´s tired or still "green" and has no experience? But more than 8km should be no Problem... Im not sure, but Ive made the experience that my Sonarguy can hear better at 25-30m than at Periscope depth...

02-07-07, 11:56 AM	#3
rocco Seaman Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Well, he wasn't tired, but it is my first patrol. I did dive down to 20 meters, but that didn't help him. I noticed manning the station manually, it was harder to hear the contact in GWX than in stock. Rocco

02-07-07, 11:58 AM	#4
raduz Engineer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slovakia Posts: 205 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	it happened to me once when I thought I was deep enough but in fact, I was almost surfaced, at 9 m. of course, the hydrophone didnt work and the SO couldnot report anything...

02-07-07, 06:31 PM	#6
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	He works fine for me no problem.

02-08-07, 04:09 AM	#10
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	i have trouble with mine too, even at short range i ask sonar man to follow nearest sound contact and he says "no sound contact" but if i manually use hydraphones the contact is there clear as day __________________

02-08-07, 08:38 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The sonarman is the first qualification and promotion I go for Always ensure you have a second guy suitably qualified and keep em fresh not fatigued __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-08-07, 10:46 AM	#13
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	All I can say is this, when I upgraded my phones and put in a petty officer with the lighting bolt for the radio operator, he works just fine. The biggest difference was the phone upgrade __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road