IceBurg's Work!

LuftWolf · 02-07-07, 07:12 AM

I don't know if this was a rumor going around or whatever, but iceburgs are definately work, not just the map specific ice but the database iceburgs that mission designers can put it.

I seem to remember someone saying they were not solid... maybe it was just for torpedoes, but anyway, you can definately die if you hit one.

Yes, I did a test, I didn't find this out in a mission.

Cheers,
David

Pirate · 02-07-07, 10:19 AM

This is great!!! This adds so much more to Ice Missions

Thanks for reporting.

Dr.Sid · 02-07-07, 12:20 PM

Hm .. I can't see the bergs .. I added all 3 types. I can hit them if I get close, but they can't be seen.

Any ideas how to use them ?

LuftWolf · 02-08-07, 09:58 AM

Actually, I can just barely see them on the 3-d screen.

Well, there are some caveats.

The very largest icebergs (which is suppose to be about 8-10nm in diameter) will show a graphics but they don't become solid until about 1nm... also they don't show up on active sonar.

So these are all significant problems.

So, I guess my advice for mission designers is to use damage (for platforms) or removal triggers (for torpedoes) and make marks on the players map regarding navigational hazards if they wish to use the largest icebergs in their missions (to block paths or for whatever purpose).

Cheers,
David

Dr.Sid · 02-08-07, 10:53 AM

I don't see them at all. Blank blue see. Can you post some screenshots ?

LuftWolf · 02-08-07, 11:12 AM

I'm fairly certain you have to have the platform selected on the 3-d viewer in order to see the icebergs.

Cheers,
David

Dr.Sid · 02-08-07, 12:33 PM

Oh .. I did not looked under water .. I was expecting something to be seen on the surface.

XabbaRus · 02-08-07, 03:25 PM

That's what bugs me about the icebergs in DW. They are just walls of ice several miles long with nothing poking up. Definately need to be redone.

LuftWolf · 02-08-07, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

That's what bugs me about the icebergs in DW. They are just walls of ice several miles long with nothing poking up. Definately need to be redone.

On the plus side, I think the environmental ice is well implemented.

The good news is that the missions designers have enough tools to be able to "fake it".

Cheers,
David

Dr.Sid · 02-08-07, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

That's what bugs me about the icebergs in DW. They are just walls of ice several miles long with nothing poking up. Definately need to be redone.

You're the man, XabbaRus .. because it's model change, isn't it ?

XabbaRus · 02-08-07, 05:48 PM

yea and a data change

SeaQueen · 02-08-07, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

That's what bugs me about the icebergs in DW. They are just walls of ice several miles long with nothing poking up. Definately need to be redone.

I think that maybe the word "iceberg" is the problem. Really, they're "ice keels" which used to be of deep concern to those involved with chasing Soviet SSBNs under the arctic ice.

Bellman · 02-09-07, 08:47 AM

SQ: ''Deep concern.''

LuftWolf · 02-09-07, 08:57 AM

Hmm... Bellman, your mind works in interesting ways.

Bellman · 02-09-07, 09:05 AM

:rotfl

avid - relieved you did'nt say ''in strange ways !''

02-07-07, 07:12 AM	#1
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	IceBurg's Work! I don't know if this was a rumor going around or whatever, but iceburgs are definately work, not just the map specific ice but the database iceburgs that mission designers can put it. I seem to remember someone saying they were not solid... maybe it was just for torpedoes, but anyway, you can definately die if you hit one. Yes, I did a test, I didn't find this out in a mission. Cheers, David __________________ LW

02-07-07, 10:19 AM	#2
Pirate Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Oeiras, PORTUGAL Posts: 258 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	This is great!!! This adds so much more to Ice Missions Thanks for reporting. __________________

02-08-07, 09:58 AM	#4
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Actually, I can just barely see them on the 3-d screen. Well, there are some caveats. The very largest icebergs (which is suppose to be about 8-10nm in diameter) will show a graphics but they don't become solid until about 1nm... also they don't show up on active sonar. So these are all significant problems. So, I guess my advice for mission designers is to use damage (for platforms) or removal triggers (for torpedoes) and make marks on the players map regarding navigational hazards if they wish to use the largest icebergs in their missions (to block paths or for whatever purpose). Cheers, David __________________ LW

02-08-07, 11:12 AM	#6
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'm fairly certain you have to have the platform selected on the 3-d viewer in order to see the icebergs. Cheers, David __________________ LW

02-08-07, 03:25 PM	#8
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That's what bugs me about the icebergs in DW. They are just walls of ice several miles long with nothing poking up. Definately need to be redone. __________________

02-07-07, 12:20 PM	#3
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Hm .. I can't see the bergs .. I added all 3 types. I can hit them if I get close, but they can't be seen. Any ideas how to use them ?

02-08-07, 10:53 AM	#5
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I don't see them at all. Blank blue see. Can you post some screenshots ?

02-08-07, 12:33 PM	#7
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Oh .. I did not looked under water .. I was expecting something to be seen on the surface.

02-08-07, 05:48 PM	#11
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	yea and a data change __________________

02-09-07, 08:47 AM	#13
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	SQ: ''Deep concern.'' __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

02-09-07, 08:57 AM	#14
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hmm... Bellman, your mind works in interesting ways. __________________ LW

02-09-07, 09:05 AM	#15
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	:rotflavid - relieved you did'nt say ''in strange ways !'' __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity