Starting rank in SH4

hyperion2206 · 01-28-07, 06:15 AM

Does anybody know which rank we'll be granted upon our first patrol?
I've read that the captains of the bigger subs were LTCDR and the captains of S-class subs were LT.
I'll guess we'll start as an Ensing anyway:p

Takeda Shingen · 01-28-07, 09:14 AM

Seaman, First Class.

hyperion2206 · 01-28-07, 09:29 AM

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Seaman, First Class.

That's ok for me as long as I don't have to start as a Marine!:p

Hylander_1314 · 01-28-07, 09:54 AM

If you start as an Ensign, you better be the Exec, and not the C.O.

Boris · 01-28-07, 11:17 AM

is an ensign like a midshipman?

hyperion2206 · 01-28-07, 12:06 PM

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is an ensign like a midshipman?

The Ensign is the same rank as the Leutnant z.S. in the German Navy. A Midshipman (in the US Navy) is the equivilant to the Oberfähnrich z.S. in the German Navy.

Boris · 01-28-07, 02:38 PM

Yeah, I knew a Midshipman was an Oberfähnrich (or just Fähnrich), but doesn't the US have two Lieutennant ranks as well? 2nd and 1st or something.

CCIP · 01-28-07, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

Yeah, I knew a Midshipman was an Oberfähnrich (or just Fähnrich), but doesn't the US have two Lieutennant ranks as well? 2nd and 1st or something.

I guess you could even say 3...

The whole list:

Ensign
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain

Which would be roughly equivalent to

Oberfahnrich
Leutnant zS
Oberleutnant zS
Kapitanleutnant
Korvettenkapitan/Fregattenkapitan
Kapitan zS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compara...f_World_War_II

Sailor Steve · 01-28-07, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Seaman, First Class.

Been there, done that.

Elder-Pirate · 01-28-07, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Seaman, First Class.

Been there, done that.

Me too but never the 'Skipper' of a Sub. And could not be with SFC rank.

hyperion2206 · 01-28-07, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

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Originally Posted by Boris

Yeah, I knew a Midshipman was an Oberfähnrich (or just Fähnrich), but doesn't the US have two Lieutennant ranks as well? 2nd and 1st or something.

I guess you could even say 3...

The whole list:

Ensign
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain

Which would be roughly equivalent to

Oberfahnrich
Leutnant zS
Oberleutnant zS
Kapitanleutnant
Korvettenkapitan/Fregattenkapitan
Kapitan zS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compara...f_World_War_II

I think you mixed something up.
Ensign= Leutnant z.S.
Lieutenant Junior Grade= Oberleutnant z.S.
Lieutenant Senior Grade= Kapitänleutnant
Lieutenant Commander= Korvettenkapitän
Commander= Fregattenkapitän
Captain= Kapitän z.S.

That should be right, at least since the NATO exists.

Takeda Shingen · 01-28-07, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Seaman, First Class.

Been there, done that.

Then you should have a leg up on the rest of us. Mind if I pick your brain on how to kiss up to the chief? I really don't want to spend all of my SH4 time peeling potatoes.

Takeda Shingen · 01-28-07, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Elder-Pirate

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Seaman, First Class.

Been there, done that.

Me too but never the 'Skipper' of a Sub. And could not be with SFC rank.

Really? Are you sure? We'd better check the WWII records just to be sure that there were no Seaman CO's. I want this to be historically accurate.

Tigrone · 01-28-07, 04:49 PM

Ranks, especially junior ones are never exactly equal across services, but the Royal Navy did not have the Ensign rank and by tradition those junior officer duties were performed by Senior Midshipman. A US Ensign could be said to be equivalent to a Senior Midshipman in the Royal Navy. US Midshipman did not go to sea, except for brief training cruises.

I'd expect in SH4 to start as a Lieutenant Senior Grade, go on to Lt. Commander, and end as a Commander. But, it is just a game, and for play they may want at least 4 ranks; so, Lieutenant J.G is fine to start with.

Iron Budokan · 01-28-07, 05:09 PM

In SH3 we were known as Kaleuns. Are we Skippers in SH4 or Commanders? What is the preferred term for the commander of a U.S. sub?

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Tigrone Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 470 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Midshipman did equal Ensign in Royal Navy Ranks, especially junior ones are never exactly equal across services, but the Royal Navy did not have the Ensign rank and by tradition those junior officer duties were performed by Senior Midshipman. A US Ensign could be said to be equivalent to a Senior Midshipman in the Royal Navy. US Midshipman did not go to sea, except for brief training cruises. I'd expect in SH4 to start as a Lieutenant Senior Grade, go on to Lt. Commander, and end as a Commander. But, it is just a game, and for play they may want at least 4 ranks; so, Lieutenant J.G is fine to start with. __________________ Commander Hiram Cassedy: "Tigrone has saved the Air Force and is now returning to Iwo Jima with 28 rescued zoomies." B-29 SNUFFY & THE SHIF'LESS SKONKS among them. I've a broom at the mast said he, for the broom is a sign for me, that wherever I go, I sweep the mighty sea.

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Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	In SH3 we were known as Kaleuns. Are we Skippers in SH4 or Commanders? What is the preferred term for the commander of a U.S. sub? __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I knew a Midshipman was an Oberfähnrich (or just Fähnrich), but doesn't the US have two Lieutennant ranks as well? 2nd and 1st or something.