Rigging for Silent Running?

Mowinz · 01-27-07, 03:07 PM

Hello again folks!

I have a silent running question and was hoping maybe someone could help me out. For now I'm just running SH3 Commander with stock sh3 and 1.4b patch.

Here's the scenario:

My IX boat is running in Sept. of 42 and I'm heading to a grid just off Freetown. By the way....that Freetown Port was empty as could be when I was in there!

Anyhow, now I'm patrolling grid DT and after an hour or so I find this HUGE convoy heading north. OK looking good. My boat is on the surface at night, I have good position and the closest ship is discovered at a range of about 7600 meters and I'm movin in.

I did not go to periscope depth right away because I wanted to get closer using a higher speed but I know there are destroyers out there and then I find a distant one approaching fast.

OK. I go to periscope depth then Rig for Silent Running. My boat submerges about 40 meters below and for some reason I am being detected.

I couldn't shake off the destroyer which was dropping tin cans all over me. I zig zagged my boat and moved to periscope depth and let loose a few torps then went deep again and positioned for another attack.

How am I being detected if I am moving at slow speed and rigged for silent running?

Is this game buggy at times in this regard?

Cheers

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-27-07, 03:14 PM

This has been discussed quite many times. You can get detected even if not moving at all. What I could say is:
- you were to shallow,
- you weres too fast (1 knt would be better

),
- he knew were you should be as he spotted you on the surface,
- if he pings you while being close (and he probably was) he'll almost always find your position, as pinging has nothing common with you making any noise,
- and once more - you were too shallow. Go much deeper and don't try to beat it. It has friends around and you don't do. Escape and try to intercept the convoy once again.

Corsair · 01-27-07, 07:50 PM

With stock game :

- it's normal Freetown is empty

- you are lucky to have the "silent cone" so going deep enough and silent running normally let you get away from warships. Try rather 150m than 40m...
Silent running only means that your crew stops all noisy activities (torpedo reloads, repairs, etc) and engines run at minimum speed. It is not normally a cloaking device.

IRONxMortlock · 01-27-07, 08:21 PM

Also be aware that if you can see the enemy on the surface in 1942 there's a good chance they have detected you on radar.
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Jimbuna · 01-28-07, 10:46 AM

All ports and harbours in stock/vanilla game are empty

As for avoiding DDs...there are literally dozens of threads on this forum which can advise you...here's a good place to start:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=tactics

Mowinz · 01-29-07, 03:06 PM

Thanks again! Next time I see a convoy it's periscope depth right away!

Cheers

01-27-07, 03:07 PM	#1
Mowinz Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 100 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Rigging for Silent Running? Hello again folks! I have a silent running question and was hoping maybe someone could help me out. For now I'm just running SH3 Commander with stock sh3 and 1.4b patch. Here's the scenario: My IX boat is running in Sept. of 42 and I'm heading to a grid just off Freetown. By the way....that Freetown Port was empty as could be when I was in there! Anyhow, now I'm patrolling grid DT and after an hour or so I find this HUGE convoy heading north. OK looking good. My boat is on the surface at night, I have good position and the closest ship is discovered at a range of about 7600 meters and I'm movin in. I did not go to periscope depth right away because I wanted to get closer using a higher speed but I know there are destroyers out there and then I find a distant one approaching fast. OK. I go to periscope depth then Rig for Silent Running. My boat submerges about 40 meters below and for some reason I am being detected. I couldn't shake off the destroyer which was dropping tin cans all over me. I zig zagged my boat and moved to periscope depth and let loose a few torps then went deep again and positioned for another attack. How am I being detected if I am moving at slow speed and rigged for silent running? Is this game buggy at times in this regard? Cheers

01-27-07, 03:14 PM	#2
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	This has been discussed quite many times. You can get detected even if not moving at all. What I could say is: - you were to shallow, - you weres too fast (1 knt would be better ), - he knew were you should be as he spotted you on the surface, - if he pings you while being close (and he probably was) he'll almost always find your position, as pinging has nothing common with you making any noise, - and once more - you were too shallow. Go much deeper and don't try to beat it. It has friends around and you don't do. Escape and try to intercept the convoy once again. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

01-27-07, 07:50 PM	#3
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	With stock game : - it's normal Freetown is empty - you are lucky to have the "silent cone" so going deep enough and silent running normally let you get away from warships. Try rather 150m than 40m... Silent running only means that your crew stops all noisy activities (torpedo reloads, repairs, etc) and engines run at minimum speed. It is not normally a cloaking device. __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

01-27-07, 08:21 PM	#4
IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Also be aware that if you can see the enemy on the surface in 1942 there's a good chance they have detected you on radar. ________ CALIFORNIA MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:40 PM.

01-28-07, 10:46 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	All ports and harbours in stock/vanilla game are empty As for avoiding DDs...there are literally dozens of threads on this forum which can advise you...here's a good place to start: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=tactics __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-29-07, 03:06 PM	#6
Mowinz Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 100 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Thanks again! Next time I see a convoy it's periscope depth right away! Cheers