New weapons - interesting

baggygreen · 01-24-07, 10:24 PM

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=181475

bookworm_020 · 01-24-07, 10:59 PM

I saw a photo of it, it looks like an oversized sat dish. They say it's got a range of 500 meters, and has no long lasting effects.

I see problems in that it's an obvious target!

Konovalov · 01-25-07, 05:18 AM

Excellent. My hands and feet really feel the cold during winter so this would be great for heating the house.

Konovalov · 01-25-07, 06:19 AM

Heat is not the only weapon being developed by US military scientists. Artificial 'black ice' could also be used on the battlefield to make the enemy slip up.

Letum · 01-25-07, 06:20 AM

One problem I can see is that, unlike existing crowd control methods, it is indiscriminate. i.e. With existing crowd control methods you can choose not to target some members of the crowd. You may wish to not target the injured or frail for example. This new weapon does not appear to have this capability.

Limitations aside, I dislike any weapon that allows the few to dominate the many; there is always someone in the world who will want to use it against peaceful or semi-peaceful demonstrations and/or protests, but I'm sure that this weapon will have some positive uses in the world as well.

StandingCow · 01-25-07, 10:58 AM

There is a video of this floating around.. I think it is the first weapon to be able to take out a mortar round... amazing.

Good time too, it will help keep our troops safe.

JSLTIGER · 01-25-07, 11:01 AM

Does anyone else think that this weapon sounds like it might be microwaving people?

StandingCow · 01-25-07, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

Does anyone else think that this weapon sounds like it might be microwaving people?

No, its a laser beam. Direct heat to the target.

Letum · 01-25-07, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StandingCow

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Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

Does anyone else think that this weapon sounds like it might be microwaving people?

No, its a laser beam. Direct heat to the target.

Direct heat? Really? That must use HUGE amounts of power.

I hope no one in the crowd had a Molotov cocktail in their hand.....

STEED · 01-25-07, 01:13 PM

At long last I can cook my food faster.

U-533 · 01-25-07, 01:50 PM

Never saw much use for a weapon that just pisses-off the enemy or crowd. (whatever)

If a people get to a point where nothing will stop them from changing whatever they want to change then making them hurt will not help the matter.

tycho102 · 01-25-07, 01:51 PM

Yeah, it's just an ordinary 2.4ghz microwave beam. One hell of a magnetron, but an ordinary microwave beam. The oxygen-hydrogen bonds absorb that *very* effectively, but it just doesn't cause much DNA damage (unlike ~215nm UV). So, it's more efficient than an IR emitter because the magnetron is very efficient. Can still cause retinal damage along with blistering. And Katie-bar-the-door if you've got anything metallic on you, touching your skin. Might even possibly cook off ammunition, but I don't know at what ranges.

It's a good idea but I'm curious to see what kind of damage it can sustain and still function. That thing will be targettable outside it's field, and I'd imagine one good RPG or a full clip would sign it off.

01-24-07, 10:24 PM	#1
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	New weapons - interesting http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=181475

01-24-07, 10:59 PM	#2
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I saw a photo of it, it looks like an oversized sat dish. They say it's got a range of 500 meters, and has no long lasting effects. I see problems in that it's an obvious target! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

01-25-07, 05:18 AM	#3
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Excellent. My hands and feet really feel the cold during winter so this would be great for heating the house. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

01-25-07, 06:19 AM	#4
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Heat is not the only weapon being developed by US military scientists. Artificial 'black ice' could also be used on the battlefield to make the enemy slip up. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

01-25-07, 06:20 AM	#5
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	One problem I can see is that, unlike existing crowd control methods, it is indiscriminate. i.e. With existing crowd control methods you can choose not to target some members of the crowd. You may wish to not target the injured or frail for example. This new weapon does not appear to have this capability. Limitations aside, I dislike any weapon that allows the few to dominate the many; there is always someone in the world who will want to use it against peaceful or semi-peaceful demonstrations and/or protests, but I'm sure that this weapon will have some positive uses in the world as well. __________________

01-25-07, 10:58 AM	#6
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	There is a video of this floating around.. I think it is the first weapon to be able to take out a mortar round... amazing. Good time too, it will help keep our troops safe. __________________

01-25-07, 11:01 AM	#7
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01-25-07, 01:13 PM	#10
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	At long last I can cook my food faster. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-25-07, 01:50 PM	#11
U-533 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On my Boat Posts: 594 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Never saw much use for a weapon that just pisses-off the enemy or crowd. (whatever) If a people get to a point where nothing will stop them from changing whatever they want to change then making them hurt will not help the matter.

01-25-07, 01:51 PM	#12
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, it's just an ordinary 2.4ghz microwave beam. One hell of a magnetron, but an ordinary microwave beam. The oxygen-hydrogen bonds absorb that very effectively, but it just doesn't cause much DNA damage (unlike ~215nm UV). So, it's more efficient than an IR emitter because the magnetron is very efficient. Can still cause retinal damage along with blistering. And Katie-bar-the-door if you've got anything metallic on you, touching your skin. Might even possibly cook off ammunition, but I don't know at what ranges. It's a good idea but I'm curious to see what kind of damage it can sustain and still function. That thing will be targettable outside it's field, and I'd imagine one good RPG or a full clip would sign it off.