Problem with ships tonnage

Trollus · 12-21-06, 04:16 PM

Hi

I have a strange problem, I don't know whether it's a bug or not. In museum I can find some liners, for example, Chatham transport, Cunard Liner etc. All of them are described as 'Passenger Liner' and have the same tonnage - 24 000 if US ship and 18 000 if british. I checked .cfg files. They look normal, I mean Chatham has 5,649 BRT, large old liner has 14 000. The same issue can be noticed when you see the medium tankers ( T2 and Empire Celt tanker). Although there're correct (and different) values in their .cfg files, both of these units have the same tonnage. I don't want it to be so please, tell me what should I change to get correct tonnage values.

Thanks for help

AVGWarhawk · 12-21-06, 04:35 PM

Picky-picky. You got me man !

Trollus · 12-21-06, 04:38 PM

Not quite understand..

AVGWarhawk · 12-21-06, 04:41 PM

I do not know how to help you switch the values. What is the difference if the values are different?

Trollus · 12-21-06, 04:49 PM

Ok I think I got it. First I changed in EnglishNames.cfg from Passenger Liner to, for example 'Chatham Transport', then in roster directory edited NCHT.cfg file and set 'Display Name=Chatham Transport'. Now it works correct, hope you understood my problem, thanks for reply.

AVGWarhawk · 12-21-06, 04:51 PM

I did not understand but hey, I'm glad I could help you!

:rotfl::rotfl:

Vikinger · 12-21-06, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I did not understand but hey, I'm glad I could help you!

:rotfl::rotfl:

ROFL.

AG124 · 12-21-06, 07:01 PM

Yes, that was a minor problem with the museum descriptions. All ships which have the same name under Englishnames.cfg will have the same description as one of those ships.

Paajtor · 12-21-06, 07:33 PM

But the recognition-manual is ok?
Haven't been through all pages yet.

AG124 · 12-21-06, 08:51 PM

Oh yes, the recognition manual and actual tonnages will work perfectly fine.

The only problem is that the descriptions in the museum will be wrong, but that is a minor issue and I think it is worth it for the generic ship contacts, which do help the game.

Trollus · 12-22-06, 03:09 AM

Hey AG124, could you explain me a bit more why it has been made this way? Maybe I shouldn't change it...

AG124 · 12-22-06, 12:03 PM

The generic names allow for more realistic manual ship identification, and is a compromise between specific names for merchants and the universal 'contact' designation in GW 1.1a. At least that's the way I understand it.

Normally, I would strongly warn against changing any GWX files. But in this case, we are talking about a simple text file, and so if you really have a problem with the museum description mix-ups, you can change the names in Englishnames.cfg or Germannames.cfg so that each merchant has its own name. (A couple of them are listed twice with two different names but don't worry about that - in such a situation, SHIII will choose the first name in the list).

Trollus · 12-22-06, 12:07 PM

Thanks for reply, one of the first thing I do after installation is to turn off 'auto identification' in wolfies tweak pack. If this is only a matter of wrong data in museum, it's not a problem. I thought that all of those liners have thhe same tonnage.

AG124 · 12-22-06, 01:18 PM

No, they all do have different tonnages both in the stock game, and in GWX.

12-21-06, 04:16 PM	#1
Trollus Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 35 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Problem with ships tonnage Hi I have a strange problem, I don't know whether it's a bug or not. In museum I can find some liners, for example, Chatham transport, Cunard Liner etc. All of them are described as 'Passenger Liner' and have the same tonnage - 24 000 if US ship and 18 000 if british. I checked .cfg files. They look normal, I mean Chatham has 5,649 BRT, large old liner has 14 000. The same issue can be noticed when you see the medium tankers ( T2 and Empire Celt tanker). Although there're correct (and different) values in their .cfg files, both of these units have the same tonnage. I don't want it to be so please, tell me what should I change to get correct tonnage values. Thanks for help

12-21-06, 04:35 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,255 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Picky-picky. You got me man ! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-21-06, 04:41 PM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,255 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I do not know how to help you switch the values. What is the difference if the values are different? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-21-06, 04:51 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,255 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I did not understand but hey, I'm glad I could help you!:rotfl::rotfl: __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-21-06, 07:01 PM	#8
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Museum Descriptions Yes, that was a minor problem with the museum descriptions. All ships which have the same name under Englishnames.cfg will have the same description as one of those ships. __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

12-21-06, 04:38 PM	#3
Trollus Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 35 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Not quite understand..

12-21-06, 04:49 PM	#5
Trollus Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 35 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Ok I think I got it. First I changed in EnglishNames.cfg from Passenger Liner to, for example 'Chatham Transport', then in roster directory edited NCHT.cfg file and set 'Display Name=Chatham Transport'. Now it works correct, hope you understood my problem, thanks for reply.

12-21-06, 07:33 PM	#9
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	But the recognition-manual is ok? Haven't been through all pages yet. __________________

12-21-06, 08:51 PM	#10
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Tonnages Oh yes, the recognition manual and actual tonnages will work perfectly fine. The only problem is that the descriptions in the museum will be wrong, but that is a minor issue and I think it is worth it for the generic ship contacts, which do help the game. __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

12-22-06, 03:09 AM	#11
Trollus Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 35 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hey AG124, could you explain me a bit more why it has been made this way? Maybe I shouldn't change it...

12-22-06, 12:03 PM	#12
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	GWX Ship Names The generic names allow for more realistic manual ship identification, and is a compromise between specific names for merchants and the universal 'contact' designation in GW 1.1a. At least that's the way I understand it. Normally, I would strongly warn against changing any GWX files. But in this case, we are talking about a simple text file, and so if you really have a problem with the museum description mix-ups, you can change the names in Englishnames.cfg or Germannames.cfg so that each merchant has its own name. (A couple of them are listed twice with two different names but don't worry about that - in such a situation, SHIII will choose the first name in the list). __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

12-22-06, 12:07 PM	#13
Trollus Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 35 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thanks for reply, one of the first thing I do after installation is to turn off 'auto identification' in wolfies tweak pack. If this is only a matter of wrong data in museum, it's not a problem. I thought that all of those liners have thhe same tonnage.

12-22-06, 01:18 PM	#14
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Liners' Tonnages No, they all do have different tonnages both in the stock game, and in GWX. __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html