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Old 11-25-06, 04:12 PM   #1
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Default Tropical Storms?

Will there be extreme weather in silent hunter 4?

in silent hunter 3 there were small storms which just slowed the uboat down but a tropical storm could really add to game dynamics by damaging the sub and knocking you off course.
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Old 11-25-06, 04:59 PM   #2
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Wild weather would be way cool, although I suspect the amount of time it would take to create such a feature would be prohibitive.:hmm:
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Old 11-26-06, 10:24 AM   #3
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You had typhoons in the Pacific of course. But any smart skipper would dive to ride out the worst of it.
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Old 11-26-06, 12:34 PM   #4
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You want to see some killer waves, look here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=101129
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Thats totaly awsome

naturaly to aviod damage from extreme weather the player would dive. This would make things interesting and force the player to evaluate the situation eg continue course underwater and recieve minor hull damage or change course to avoid extreme weather
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You want to see some killer waves, look here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=101129
I'm not impressed. I've been using TimeTraveller's Big Waves Mod (available in SH3 Commander by simply clicking the waves to "x2") for more than a year now:


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Old 11-26-06, 05:05 PM   #7
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You want to see some killer waves, look here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=101129
I'm not impressed. I've been using TimeTraveller's Big Waves Mod (available in SH3 Commander by simply clicking the waves to "x2") for more than a year now:


Nice. But can you get those outside of storm conditions?
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No, and honestly I really am impressed, especially after I reread that thread and seeing Vikinger's comments.

One of the problems TimeTraveller originally encountered was that the wind speeds seem to be locked in; he could raise them to 45 m/s, but when he restarted it dropped back to 15 by itself. I notice that those waves are set to be that high at 10 m/s, which in real life is fairly calm. I'm waiting to see what comes of all this.

Also, one of the interesting items of WW2 escort duty was that, while corvettes rolled worse than anything else, making them much more uncomfortable than destroyers, their short and stubby design actually made them less susceptible to foundering.
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No, and honestly I really am impressed, especially after I reread that thread and seeing Vikinger's comments.

One of the problems TimeTraveller originally encountered was that the wind speeds seem to be locked in; he could raise them to 45 m/s, but when he restarted it dropped back to 15 by itself. I notice that those waves are set to be that high at 10 m/s, which in real life is fairly calm. I'm waiting to see what comes of all this.

Also, one of the interesting items of WW2 escort duty was that, while corvettes rolled worse than anything else, making them much more uncomfortable than destroyers, their short and stubby design actually made them less susceptible to foundering.
"Sir, what does it take to tip this vessel over?" The Skipper said, "Ken, if you see the needle at 72 degrees and you're standing in a foot of water, start praying. That's it." "At the height of the typhoon, that needle went to 72 degrees and froze there, and we were standing in two feet of water. Believe me, I was praying."
Ken Dempsey to Lt. Cdr. Fred W. Kinsley during the typhoon of December 1944.

"I wasn't as worried as maybe I should've been. I was under the impression that destroyers or destroyer escorts would never sink purely as a result of the weather. But we still had mountainous waves. When the ship fell to the trough, you had the impression that you were in the Empire State Building, near the top, and the cable broke in the elevator."
Lt. Cdr. Fred W. Kinsley (later)

"Up to about noon on 17 December, all refueling operations were canceled. Scout planes returning to flat tops were having a rough time landing. Two planes still aloft were flagged off because it was impossible to land on the rolling, pitching deck of the carrier. Pilots, asking for instructions, got this, as heard on our TBS:
'Turn your plane loose and bail out. Destroyer will be standing by to pick you up'
Back came the word from one of the pilots, 'Repeat!'
As the order was repeated word-for-word, the pilot said, 'That's what I thought you said the first time!'
N.W. Tashman, Jr., BM1, Author of NY Times article, 22 April 1945

"In the Western Pacific so not I'm a DE sailor. Full fledged one. Drenched from head to foot with salt water. Sleep with a leg crooked around my rack so I won't fall out. Put wet bread under my dinner tray to keep it from sliding.
And you don't know what a DE sailor is? A DE, my friends, is a Destroyer Escort. It's a ship long and narrow and sleek, along the lines of a destroyer. But it's much smaller. It's a baby destroyer. It is the answer to the problems of colossal amounts of convoying; amounts so huge that we simply hadn't the time to build full-fledged destroyers to escort them all. The DE is the result.
They are rough and tumble little ships. Their after-decks are laden with depth charges. They can turn in half the space of destroyers. Their forward guns sometimes can't be used because of waves breaking over them. They roll and they plunge. They buck and they twist. They shudder and they fall through space. Their sailors say they should have flight pay and submarine pay both because they're in the air half the time, under the water the other half.
I came back from the Northern waters on a DE. When a wave comes over and you get soaked, a sailor laughs and says. "Now you're a DE sailor." It makes you feel kind of proud. And I did not get seasick! I better have my stomach examined."
Ernie Pyle, War Correspondent, Ulithi, 1945

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The bow of the ship dips under the water, and it slams into the forward mount. The spray flies higher than the mast and those of us standing on the signal bridge get drenched. The ship shakes like a dog drying itself and it feels like riding a roller coaster. One night I was assigned to empty the shredded 'secret' bags. A trip to the fantail meant waiting for the ship to roll to port and running down the starboard side, hanging on while the next roll washed over my knees, dumping the bag, hanging on again, then running back on the next roll. Three times.

Those are my own memories of returning home from the Orient on our destroyer in 1970. The sky was clear and the seas were heavy.
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Old 11-26-06, 07:47 PM   #11
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I remember seeing newsreel footage of convoys in the North Atlantic during the winter, and having my jaw drop seeing destroyers seemingly literally being swallowed by the swells. You'd see them ride the crest up up up, and then slalom down the far side, hit the trough . . . and keep going.

I still don't see how they stayed afloat. All I do know, beyond ANY shadow of a doubt, is I'm glad I wasn't aboard those things!
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The captain of a US battleship said after going through a tropical cyclone, that his battleship felt like a canoe! He was surprised that he still had any escorts left when it was all over.
The storm caused more damage than Japanese attackes had done in three months!
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Old 12-04-06, 02:46 AM   #13
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And how about reefs and lagoons....? Are this implemented in SHIV, or...?
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