256x and Air Attacks

Wijbrandus · 11-14-06, 04:24 PM

What is the issue with air attacks and high time compression?

I'm getting to the point where airpower is going to be a factor, and don't want to lose my boat over it if I can avoid it.

TGW 1.1a is the version I am playing, if it matters.

Safe-Keeper · 11-14-06, 04:29 PM

High time-compression equals no air attacks, sadly. So in areas patrolled by airplanes (such as the Bay of Biscay), keep time compression low.

AVGWarhawk · 11-14-06, 06:40 PM

Yeah, I was busy TC at the highest and noticed no airplanes ruining my day. Stabiz noted that TC does this in some other post. So to make like more interesting for me I TC around at 256. I finally got some Tiger Moths to swoop down and do their thing. This was 1939. I'm sure it will get worse. It makes for some slow moving but I also read in another thread that the watch will see more ships so there is a plus to the low TC.:hmm: What is funny is that some complained that the TC allowed DD or planes to kill you before you have time to react so it is a give and take situation.

Wijbrandus · 11-15-06, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What is funny is that some complained that the TC allowed DD or planes to kill you before you have time to react so it is a give and take situation.

Umm that's interesting. I thought if a ship or plane was spotted, TC went to 1.

I guess that instant destruction happens when the watch is asleep and doesn't see it coming?

staylo · 11-15-06, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I finally got some Tiger Moths to swoop down and do their thing.

What, wing walking?

(I think you mean Swordfish?)

AVGWarhawk · 11-15-06, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by staylo

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I finally got some Tiger Moths to swoop down and do their thing.

What, wing walking?

(I think you mean Swordfish?)

I stand corrected....last time I drink scotch while posting

BH · 11-29-06, 11:15 PM

Ive had this problem using twg at 256. Ran into a convoy with out getting ship spotted notice. The only notice I got was that I was taking fire and damage.

_Seth_ · 11-29-06, 11:20 PM

Bernard on the bridge.....

Could be that your crew was exhausted. Did they get enough rest?

11-29-06, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wijbrandus

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What is funny is that some complained that the TC allowed DD or planes to kill you before you have time to react so it is a give and take situation.

Umm that's interesting. I thought if a ship or plane was spotted, TC went to 1.

I guess that instant destruction happens when the watch is asleep and doesn't see it coming?

I've had my TC drop to 1 . . . and have about 20 actions occur simultaneously as it did . . . notably multiple hits from a suddenly-appearing destroyer, along with (when truly unlucky) being rammed.

Reece · 11-29-06, 11:33 PM

I get the impression that Wijbrandus means (correct me if I'm wrong) that when TC is high game drops back to 1x, the crew says aircraft spotted, but you have already taken a lot of damage!

If so there is a Mod by Der Teddy Bar that fixes this, mine drops back to 1x now & often have time to dive without being spotted (If I'm quick - crash dive).

irish1958 · 11-30-06, 12:24 AM

Reece,
I just got hit by air at tc 128 and was damaged immeditely. TC dropped to one but I already had been damaged when I hit the dive button. Sept 1939

Reece · 11-30-06, 06:36 AM

It's the one aspect of gameplay that always annoyed me, when using TC and enemy is detected it should drop back imediately, but with me it is always far too late, many times my boat is destroyed, a game fault!

Der Teddy Bar has a fix in the latest NYGM Campaign but never released it as a separate mod, I asked for the relative parts to the mod & He sent them to me, If anyone wants the mod I could post it, I don't think Teddy would mind, however I had better PM him first for approval.

PS. Sorry if I'm hijacking thread!

CptGrayWolf · 11-30-06, 07:37 AM

I remember something about this online community of AOD and one of their 'realism rules' was to never go over x128 compression.
So that's what I've done ever since, sure it takes long to get places but real life patrolling was also very boring.
And from the game mechanic aspect, not going over x128 might get rid of many compression bugs.

11-30-06, 07:45 AM

You can set the "Air Enemy Detected" TC to zero (0) which will immediately pause the game. You then have time to think of your response before restarting the game.

The downside is it is a little aggrevating in harbor traffic every time a plane is spotted.

CptGrayWolf · 11-30-06, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by von Zelda

You can set the "Air Enemy Detected" TC to zero (0) which will immediately pause the game. You then have time to think of your response before restarting the game.

The downside is it is a little aggrevating in harbor traffic every time a plane is spotted.

Enemy Air Detected should have been set to zero by default, not sure what the devs were thinking there...
btw where excatly do we make these changes? I know there are a few .ini files, including in My Documents.

11-14-06, 04:24 PM	#1
Wijbrandus Loader Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 83 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	256x and Air Attacks What is the issue with air attacks and high time compression? I'm getting to the point where airpower is going to be a factor, and don't want to lose my boat over it if I can avoid it. TGW 1.1a is the version I am playing, if it matters.

11-14-06, 04:29 PM	#2
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	High time-compression equals no air attacks, sadly. So in areas patrolled by airplanes (such as the Bay of Biscay), keep time compression low. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

11-14-06, 06:40 PM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I was busy TC at the highest and noticed no airplanes ruining my day. Stabiz noted that TC does this in some other post. So to make like more interesting for me I TC around at 256. I finally got some Tiger Moths to swoop down and do their thing. This was 1939. I'm sure it will get worse. It makes for some slow moving but I also read in another thread that the watch will see more ships so there is a plus to the low TC.:hmm: What is funny is that some complained that the TC allowed DD or planes to kill you before you have time to react so it is a give and take situation. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-29-06, 11:20 PM	#8
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Bernard on the bridge..... Could be that your crew was exhausted. Did they get enough rest? __________________

11-29-06, 11:33 PM	#10
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,695 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I get the impression that Wijbrandus means (correct me if I'm wrong) that when TC is high game drops back to 1x, the crew says aircraft spotted, but you have already taken a lot of damage! If so there is a Mod by Der Teddy Bar that fixes this, mine drops back to 1x now & often have time to dive without being spotted (If I'm quick - crash dive). __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-29-06, 11:15 PM	#7
BH Loader Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 89 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Ive had this problem using twg at 256. Ran into a convoy with out getting ship spotted notice. The only notice I got was that I was taking fire and damage.

11-30-06, 12:24 AM	#11
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	air Reece, I just got hit by air at tc 128 and was damaged immeditely. TC dropped to one but I already had been damaged when I hit the dive button. Sept 1939 __________________ Irish1958

11-30-06, 06:36 AM	#12
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,695 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	It's the one aspect of gameplay that always annoyed me, when using TC and enemy is detected it should drop back imediately, but with me it is always far too late, many times my boat is destroyed, a game fault! Der Teddy Bar has a fix in the latest NYGM Campaign but never released it as a separate mod, I asked for the relative parts to the mod & He sent them to me, If anyone wants the mod I could post it, I don't think Teddy would mind, however I had better PM him first for approval. PS. Sorry if I'm hijacking thread! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-30-06, 07:37 AM	#13
CptGrayWolf Commander Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saint Lawrence Seaway Posts: 459 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I remember something about this online community of AOD and one of their 'realism rules' was to never go over x128 compression. So that's what I've done ever since, sure it takes long to get places but real life patrolling was also very boring. And from the game mechanic aspect, not going over x128 might get rid of many compression bugs. __________________ Thomas Voltz, U-93 VIIc, Aug 1940, at sea patrol 1 GWX3 Gold, 100%

11-30-06, 07:45 AM	#14
von Zelda Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	You can set the "Air Enemy Detected" TC to zero (0) which will immediately pause the game. You then have time to think of your response before restarting the game. The downside is it is a little aggrevating in harbor traffic every time a plane is spotted.