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Old 11-17-06, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default Alleged Russian Spy Caught in Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...onage-mtl.html

What is this all about? Is Russia still spying on us, even though the Cold War is over and the Soviet Union has collapsed? And why would they bother spying on Canada? (It's not like we're one of the greatest military powers in the world). Or maybe it's just a mistake.

BTW - This wasn't posted here before, was it?
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Old 11-18-06, 03:43 AM   #2
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And why would they bother spying on Canada? (It's not like we're one of the greatest military powers in the world).
Canada isn't the greatest power, and probably will never be. However Canada has many technological companies way ahead of Russian counterpart, and worth spying on. Russia does that to all G7 countries, and even non G7.
That's how they managed to do many things up to date. If it wasn't for spying, Russia would still be in the 70's in terms of military technology, they simply don't have the means for the research, and that is extra money. They can hardly nourish their people evenly coast to coast, their PPP is 62nd in the world.
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Old 11-18-06, 04:25 AM   #3
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Theres alot russia can spy on canada is just one of many countries and yes spying still goes on.
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So, somewhere there´s a 007 chasing the bad guys?
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Old 11-18-06, 07:09 AM   #5
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...onage-mtl.html

What is this all about? Is Russia still spying on us, even though the Cold War is over and the Soviet Union has collapsed? And why would they bother spying on Canada? (It's not like we're one of the greatest military powers in the world). Or maybe it's just a mistake.

BTW - This wasn't posted here before, was it?
It aint no mistake. Even NZ gets spied on and were a threat to no one.
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Old 11-18-06, 08:03 AM   #6
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Is Russia still spying on us, even though the Cold War is over and the Soviet Union has collapsed?
Thats what we wantet you to think, MUHAHAHAHA!!!



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Old 11-18-06, 11:42 AM   #7
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I just love how people seem surprised that Russia still spies on the west just because teh Cold war is over. No on estopped spying on anyone. Everyone spies on everyone else.

The US on the UK, the UK on France etc...

I disagree with Perilscope about how the Soviets lacked funds for research, there whole setup was geared to military research, they lagged behind in some areas of electronics mainly semiconductor research but to say they would have stayed in the 70's without spying is over egging the pudding. There are/were numerous areas where they were ahead.

Also there is teh question of pragmatism. Why spend millions researching what someone else has when you can just steal it, study it and in some areas improve on it.

Don't think the UK never did that on ol' Uncle Sam.
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Old 11-18-06, 12:01 PM   #8
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Ah, I see now.:hmm: I can see the spies are being deported in the present age - I think I have read of spies being deported from various countries during the Cold War as well. Would it have ever been common (either during the Cold War or now) for them to have been executed?
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Wasn't there a submarine type who spied on the US for Isreal?
As has been said every nation spies on every other nation, peace time relations or not.
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Ah, I see now.:hmm: I can see the spies are being deported in the present age - I think I have read of spies being deported from various countries during the Cold War as well. Would it have ever been common (either during the Cold War or now) for them to have been executed?
They have value in trades. The US and USSR used to trade their captive spies all the time. Gary Powers is one example.
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Ah, I see now.:hmm: I can see the spies are being deported in the present age - I think I have read of spies being deported from various countries during the Cold War as well. Would it have ever been common (either during the Cold War or now) for them to have been executed?
Absolutley, the Rosenbergs, although treason was the charge. Benedict Arnold for the same reason. Expulsions for espionage is more common with the UN in NYC and many embassies in DC. It works both ways however, there have been many fueds where countries expell each others diplomats over espionage.
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Also there is an unwrtten rule that you don't bump each other spies off and I think that goes for execution too.

Look at the Cambridge five. I suppose under treason laws they could have been shot but sometimes it is worth letting them go just to see who they go to.

I think that sometimes they might let a spy continue his spying to see who their contact is they just let him see wrong information that he and the enemy whoever it is thinks is right.
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everyone spies on everyone else simple fact of life you do it every day so countries do it to each other
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I just wonder, does anyone know if Canada itself is spying on anyone else? Are there any reports of Canadian spies in other countries? Or are we too weak and complacent?
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I just wonder, does anyone know if Canada itself is spying on anyone else? Are there any reports of Canadian spies in other countries? Or are we too weak and complacent?
Surely Canada has an intelligence service?
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