Approaches

[jason taylor]

How do you prefer to make an approach?

[Kapitan]

You left it a bit wide do you mean approach a ship or port or person what?

Each to his own if i approach a port i normaly do so at night and slow so if i do stick some masts out of the water they are not noticed so much.

A ship i generaly move away then run in front then wait and then follow.

[jason taylor]

By approach I mean getting your sub closer to an intended target-normally though not necessarily to set it up for a shot(the same process could be used on a recon mission).

[sonar732]

Utilize all the environmental situations to your advantage. Are there sea mounts in the area that you can move around? What is the SSP and layer depth associated with it...find the 'shadow zone'. Another thing to take into play is to look at your initial brief, read into it and think of strategy before starting the mission. Are you going against a SAG or submerged threat?

[jason taylor]

depends of course.
In Sink the Nimitz their is a good layer, and you know where the enemy is. You can crank up to 35 until you reach the point and simply wait. I found Barants sea loiter a little more interesting. There is no layer, an enemy sub to worry about and the enemy often is going to fast for me to slow down as often as I would like.

[Dr.Sid]

Also turn toward pingers to decrease ping return.

[SeaQueen]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

How do you prefer to make an approach?

I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you.

[Linton]

Sea Queen I have many of my kharmic lives left so you can tell me.
Sitting under a big tanker or cargo ship works well.

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

depends of course.
In Sink the Nimitz their is a good layer, and you know where the enemy is. You can crank up to 35 until you reach the point and simply wait. I found Barants sea loiter a little more interesting. There is no layer, an enemy sub to worry about and the enemy often is going to fast for me to slow down as often as I would like.

Set an intercept course in Barents Sea Loiter...I usually go between 270 and 225 around 15 knots since the OPFOR is going fast also.

[Dr.Sid]

Originally Posted by Linton

Sea Queen I have many of my kharmic lives left so you can tell me.
Sitting under a big tanker or cargo ship works well.

It does not work agaisnt human with manual sonar. You can see there is too many lines on NB. It's hard to clasify, but if you expect enemy sub nearby, and found something under tanker, it's simple.
It can work against human with sonar autocrew. It wont be able to classify, maybe even marik it as 2 contact.
How does it work against AI, I can't tell. AI usually simplified methods.

[Kapitan]

Yes sitting under a tanker does work even the most skilled operators can find you but you cant control what the torpedo lock onto 9/10 if you move the submarine correctly the torpedo will hit the ship.

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

Yes sitting under a tanker does work even the most skilled operators can find you but you cant control what the torpedo lock onto 9/10 if you move the submarine correctly the torpedo will hit the ship.

Not if your presets are set correctly.

[Linton]

It certainly worked for a russian diesel boat during the cuban crisis

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by Linton

It certainly worked for a russian diesel boat during the cuban crisis

I don't know when the FRAZ display came into service, but I bet it was after the Cuban Missile Crisis and so the operator would have to try to hear the diesel thru the noise made by the tanker.

[Kapitan]

As sonar said if the preset is correct then the torpedo wont hit the ship it will hit you, but in DW most players put a cealing of just 2 feet so in that case it will hit the ship.

The FRAZ system was primativly here in 1959 but it hs changed so much those of you that live near long beach i urge you to go and see the foxtrot infact any russian submarine thats a museam.