Yes we are biased.

TteFAboB · 10-26-06, 05:38 AM

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"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly-funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. "It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias."
"Unfortunately, much of it is so deeply embedded in the BBC's culture, that it is very hard to change it."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ves/article.do

Finally, some truth telling. And more

for removing the illusory "impartial" or "neutral" mask. Don't know why people are so obsessed with "neutral" journalism. I don't want that, I don't want to see somebody debating the benefits of Sharia to avoid appearing unbalanced against it. The benefits of Sharia are to be enjoyed in Iran, not Britain.

Now, my question. Where is the BBC nemesis? Is there a channel in Britain without this "cultural liberal bias"?

The Avon Lady · 10-26-06, 05:56 AM

XabbaRus · 10-26-06, 06:00 AM

Ah please give it a rest.

The Avon Lady · 10-26-06, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Ah please give it a rest.

Godalmighty83 · 10-26-06, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Ah please give it a rest.

what? you expect the same old miseries on here to stop droaning on and on all the bloody time about the same old things???

silly you.

XabbaRus · 10-26-06, 07:33 AM

Hmmm again quotes out of context. I guess Fox news is the opposite then.

The Avon Lady · 10-26-06, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Hmmm again quotes out of context.

Where? :hmm:

JSLTIGER · 10-26-06, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Agreed.

TteFAboB · 10-26-06, 09:49 AM

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I guess Fox news is the opposite then.

Nope. Fox News is no "opposite" to any News channel out there. As all of them, they take complex issues and simplify them to allow the uninterested viewer to have an opinion based on limited knowledge.

Zapping through both channels right now I have noticed one difference though, not an "opposite", but a difference nonetheless: FNews has invited a Democrat and a Republican politician to discuss border security, it's the "impartial", "neutral", "fair and balanced" thing. BBC International has just aired a report about the Australian Islamic Cleric who compared women to meat and men to uncontrolled cats. BBC-I has interviewed a supporter of the cleric and a moderate Muslim. The difference is that FN's actually puts opposing points of view on screen.

SUBMAN1 · 10-26-06, 10:36 AM

Sad. I always questioned their motives, but I think I really lost respect for them the day they ran an article that suggested that large kitchen knifes should be banned in England. They could be used to hurt someone, don't you know? What a bunch of liberal idiots.

-S

Safe-Keeper · 10-26-06, 11:05 AM

Really objective article the original poster linked to. I'm impressed:p.

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Nope. Fox News is no "opposite" to any News channel out there. As all of them, they take complex issues and simplify them to allow the uninterested viewer to have an opinion based on limited knowledge.

One word: Nonsense. Anyone who doesn't recognize FOX "News" for the propaganda sender it is frankly scare me.

Oh, and this scholarly report might open some eyes. Though I doubt it very much.

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I think I really lost respect for them the day they ran an article that suggested that large kitchen knifes should be banned in England. They could be used to hurt someone, don't you know?

I'm lost.

OK, so they ran an article on kitchen knives risking a ban, so they're biased? Isn't it their job to report news?

I truly don't get what you mean.

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What a bunch of liberal idiots.

Cute

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Don't know why people are so obsessed with "neutral" journalism.

I don't know if that was a joke or intended seriously, but I'll reply below.

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I don't want that, I don't want to see somebody debating the benefits of Sharia to avoid appearing unbalanced against it.

Then don't watch it. Leave it to those of us who are interested in forming an objective opinion about it. Look, if you want to be told how perfectly, 100% right you are about Sharia, watch some televangelist rant about it. If you want to learn about Sharia, that's what debate programs and news are for.

The media is there to inform you. Its reason for existance is to tell you what happens, why it happens, and how it happens. Otherwise they're just propaganda senders, like a certain foxy channel in the US.

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The benefits of Sharia are to be enjoyed in Iran, not Britain.

So the media can't report on it objectively because you don't like it

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Ah please give it a rest.

Yeah, that'll work. Six little words and they'll stop mud-slinging those who don't agree with them. Sigh, if only it was so easy.

Oh, and yes, that is why you bash BBC: Because its politics do not word-for-word match those of you. If it was solely about them being biased, you'd apply the same scorn to right-winged outlets such as FOX "News". The fact that you single BBC out for attack speaks novels about your true intentions.

Sailor Steve · 10-26-06, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

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Nope. Fox News is no "opposite" to any News channel out there. As all of them, they take complex issues and simplify them to allow the uninterested viewer to have an opinion based on limited knowledge.

One word: Nonsense. Anyone who doesn't recognize FOX "News" for the propaganda sender it is frankly scare me.

Are you telling my you didn't recognize the humor in that statement? Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks to me like that statement accuses Fox's viewers of having no opinion but the one they're told to have. I disagree, but it was still pretty darned funny.

And he did accuse Fox of being a "propaganda sender", same as all the others.

Safe-Keeper · 10-26-06, 11:12 AM

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Are you telling my you didn't recognize the humor in that statement

Yes, I really am. I've met so many people seriously stating it that I missed the joke, if it is one

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Sailor Steve · 10-26-06, 11:16 AM

Of course, it could just be me. I admit I'm warped.

I think Fox's big claim to "fair and balanced" has mainly to do with the fact that the big US news services also claim to impartial reporting, but almost always seem to take a liberal stance, sometimes just not bothering to report anything that disagrees.

SUBMAN1 · 10-26-06, 11:22 AM

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I think I really lost respect for them the day they ran an article that suggested that large kitchen knifes should be banned in England. They could be used to hurt someone, don't you know?

I'm lost.

OK, so they ran an article on kitchen knives risking a ban, so they're biased? Isn't it their job to report news?

I truly don't get what you mean.

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What a bunch of liberal idiots.

Cute

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Kitchen knifes - if you read the article, it was purely intended to push an agenda, not pushing news. It is posted somewhere on this very board and is rather humorous to read, yet it is written with such seriousness!

Liberal idiots - just reporting what they said about themselves:

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"It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias."

So get with the program already. Why are they happy to throw a bible into the garbage? Gays see the bible as a direct threat to thier sexual activities. Couple this to what is predominantly Muslim writings (I wonder what religious majority makes up their ranks?) and it doesn't take rocket science to see where the anti-christian writings come from.

I can keep going if you would like, but this isn't the only news source reporting this about the BBC.

-S

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hmmm again quotes out of context. I guess Fox news is the opposite then. __________________

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SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sad. I always questioned their motives, but I think I really lost respect for them the day they ran an article that suggested that large kitchen knifes should be banned in England. They could be used to hurt someone, don't you know? What a bunch of liberal idiots. -S __________________

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Of course, it could just be me. I admit I'm warped. I think Fox's big claim to "fair and balanced" has mainly to do with the fact that the big US news services also claim to impartial reporting, but almost always seem to take a liberal stance, sometimes just not bothering to report anything that disagrees. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo