SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-28-21, 09:14 PM   #1
bstanko6
Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Murwik Naval Academy
Posts: 2,127
Downloads: 390
Uploads: 13


Default Windows and CPU

I’m thinking of upgrading into the Ryzen series from the Fx. Never upgraded a cpu before.

I’ve upgraded gpu, psu, cooling fans and RAM.

When I bought my pc everything came with it to start. Windows, various programs and such.

If I get a new CPU does it come with all programs needed? Or do I have to figure out what I need?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos

DISCORD
https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc
bstanko6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-21, 09:20 PM   #2
bstanko6
Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Murwik Naval Academy
Posts: 2,127
Downloads: 390
Uploads: 13


Default

I guess what I’m asking is...

Is changing CPU as easy as just changing it, and hooking hard drive and stuff and that’s it?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos

DISCORD
https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc
bstanko6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-21, 09:51 PM   #3
Commander Wallace
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade
Posts: 5,028
Downloads: 360
Uploads: 0


Default

If you change out the CPU, the voltage requirements sometimes change as well. If the CPU is listed as compatible with the existing motherboard, you may not need to do anything. Once the CPU is installed, the bios is refreshed so it can " sense " the new CPU and make sure the required power in voltage is supplied.

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-upgrad...pdate-the-BIOS

The newer UEFI, which is firmware and somewhat similar in nature to a BIOS may be different. I never tried a CPU change in a UEFI equipped computer. The UEFI replaces the BIOS in newer computers.

https://www.howtogeek.com/56958/htg-...lace-the-bios/

Take a look at the links and see what you think. I hope this helps. At least this points you in the right direction.
Commander Wallace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 02:53 AM   #4
Catfish
Dipped Squirrel Operative
 
Catfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky
Posts: 16,913
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0


Default

^ What the Commander said,

either you ask the seller of the CPU whether it is suited for your special mainboard (and the exact name and version(!) of the latter will be needed, there are always updates and versions even within one mainboard series), the rest will go automatically if the CPU is suited.
Maybe a firmware update for the Bios/UEFI should be made beforehand, if you did not do this before maybe let your local store do that.

You can later enter the Bios or UEFI to look and maybe change some settings - but this should not be necessary - thing is you have to install the CPU of course before you can enter the Bios/Uefi anyway, so make sure both components (mainboard and CPU) are compatible (voltage applied etc.).

edit: One more thing, if you never did this before - taking the old CPU out and install the new one, never apply pressure, the new CPU should glide or fall into the socket without resistance, let it slide in and then lock it. Usually one of the edges of the CPU is cut off diagonally, so the orientation is clear.
If the cooling fan mechanism is not yet fixed to the cpu, apply some thermally conductive paste between CPU and the cooling device.


Other than this it is easy and straightforward, hardware-wise. I think you will have to re-install the OS though, so backup your personal data. Windows reacts to hardware changes.
__________________


>^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

Last edited by Catfish; 01-29-21 at 03:23 AM.
Catfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 08:03 AM   #5
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 181,518
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Two great answers above suffice to say....CPU and motherboard must be compatible.
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!


GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)
Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 08:09 AM   #6
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 40,671
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0


Default

Check/research the new CPU for to-be-expected temperatures with your existing CPU cooler.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is online   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 09:03 AM   #7
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 27,343
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

It is plug and play but the bios will need an update. Get a good cooler if you don't have one and thermal paste.
__________________
“You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.”
― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 11:10 AM   #8
Moonlight
Admiral
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Fookhall Copse
Posts: 2,160
Downloads: 184
Uploads: 0


Default

Just my opinion here, I've built hundreds of computers over the years and just upgrading the CPU while keeping the motherboard is a bleeding waste of time and money.
You're gonna have to make a checklist first or it could all blow up in your face.
Just for starters.
How old is the PC, if its too old its pointless.
How much Megahertz will you get after the upgrade and how much will it cost, bang for your bucks matey that's the name of the game.
Will your present cooler cope with the new CPU, if not you'll fry it.
Keep the same CPU chip type, even if its more expensive, you cannot put an AMD CPU into an Intel motherboard and vice versa .
You are upgrading a CPU which is hardware which doesn't come with any windows software programs as they are already on your SSD or Hard Drive.

You're looking at this as though you're buying a new ironing board matey, its more complicated than that.
Link below for you, read it first and then make your decision, and if that's not enough read some other links.

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...oard%20upgrade.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+u...hrome&ie=UTF-8
__________________
Moonlight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 09:51 PM   #9
Commander Wallace
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade
Posts: 5,028
Downloads: 360
Uploads: 0


Default

^ well, this certainly puts things in perspective. The only real question is do you build your own computer or do you purchase one ? I would prefer to do my own build although it's not to be taken lightly because of all the points you just made. the one thing you left out was the choices for an operating system.
Commander Wallace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 10:04 PM   #10
Buddahaid
Shark above Space Chicken
 
Buddahaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,576
Downloads: 160
Uploads: 0


Default

The last two systems I purchased I used a local boutique computer business. You can opt for what components you're interested in tailored to your needs and they build it as well as support it. A bit more expensive than off the shelf gear but you do have choices.
__________________
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4962/oeBHq3.jpg
"However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light."
Stanley Kubrick

"Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming."
David Bowie
Buddahaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 10:13 PM   #11
Commander Wallace
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade
Posts: 5,028
Downloads: 360
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddahaid View Post
The last two systems I purchased I used a local boutique computer business. You can opt for what components you're interested in tailored to your needs and they build it as well as support it. A bit more expensive than off the shelf gear but you do have choices.

That's pretty much the way to go. Doing it that way, you can tailor a system to your specific needs, as you said. If you plan on gaming, you can devote more of your budget to things like video cards to support that. Really, It's not much if any to build a system that way if you do the research which everyone does if they plan on building a system like this.
Commander Wallace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-21, 10:18 PM   #12
Buddahaid
Shark above Space Chicken
 
Buddahaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,576
Downloads: 160
Uploads: 0


Default

Anyway this thread should be in the...

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=235
__________________
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4962/oeBHq3.jpg
"However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light."
Stanley Kubrick

"Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming."
David Bowie
Buddahaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.