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Old 09-05-06, 08:42 PM   #1
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Is the Athlon 64 3700 a good cpu??? because In my building of a new pc, its probably gonna be that, coupled with 1gb of RAM, and a ATi Radeon x1600 PRO, the athlons specs are, 2.20ghtz, 2000mhtz FSB, 1mb cache. Theres also a slim chance I can get a Athlon 64 X2 4200, but as I said SLIM
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Old 09-05-06, 11:05 PM   #2
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Is the Athlon 64 3700 a good cpu??? because In my building of a new pc, its probably gonna be that, coupled with 1gb of RAM, and a ATi Radeon x1600 PRO, the athlons specs are, 2.20ghtz, 2000mhtz FSB, 1mb cache. Theres also a slim chance I can get a Athlon 64 X2 4200, but as I said SLIM
It generally received high praise from extremetech.com:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1606615,00.asp

Looks like it would make a solid system with your other HW. And I totally agree with this quote: "The Athlon 64 line of CPUs is hands down the best choice for gamers who are looking for top performance."
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Old 09-05-06, 11:50 PM   #3
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The 3700+ is a decent CPU, but you should really wait until you can afford to buy the X2. It´s much more future-proof.
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Old 09-06-06, 12:34 AM   #4
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I've had a my 3700+ since March this year and it hasn't given me any problems, and has given a really good, solid performance so far.

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Old 09-06-06, 12:42 AM   #5
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I have a 2500+ running at 2 ghz(a wee bit modified) and it runs pretty good ,but I'm probably going to have to update my CPU some time soon ,but I'm surely going to use AMD because I have been using them since forever.I'll also have to change my MB sadly , because they don't make any better slot A cpu's
The 3700+ is a good CPU and will probably be so for some time ,so you should buy it if you want .As long as you have a good card to back it up+some good RAM ,you have no real problems!My suggestion for you would be ,if possible,to get one more Gig or RAM ,just to save some money later.
There aren't too many games that run on 2gig RAM ,but having a good amount of run helps your game run a lot smoother than you think.
Having double the RAM I previously had did miracles for me with TESIV:OBLIVION .
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Old 09-06-06, 03:27 AM   #6
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The 3700 should do fine, I have the 3000+ and no problems with SH3 and GW.
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Old 09-06-06, 08:59 AM   #7
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The order of priorites or importance for AMD CPUs are: CPU Speed, L1 and then L2 Cache.
So, the 3800 at $112.00 Newegg compare to $102 for the 3700 would actually be a much better buy if this is your price range.
The 4000 is $135.00 and would be worth the few extra buck IMO

The slower 3800X2 would be better for the future but it may be obsolete anyway when that future arrives.
Now the $295.00 4800X2 would be a better bet, cheap froma few months ago
We just gamble on these projections.

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Old 09-08-06, 02:47 PM   #8
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Is the Athlon 64 3700 a good cpu??? because In my building of a new pc, its probably gonna be that, coupled with 1gb of RAM, and a ATi Radeon x1600 PRO, the athlons specs are, 2.20ghtz, 2000mhtz FSB, 1mb cache. Theres also a slim chance I can get a Athlon 64 X2 4200, but as I said SLIM
For SH3, you don't need a dual-core. Get the fastest single core that you can. The 2.4ghz "3800" isn't much more expensive (pricewatch actually shows it being cheaper).

The 2.2ghz chip will do ok, but for the money, you're better off getting the 2.4ghz. Get a decent aircooler and overclock it 200mhz -- SH3 gets choppy around convoys.
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Old 09-08-06, 03:12 PM   #9
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hmmm..... right now I'm looking at the Athlon 64 X2 4400, its seems really good, and the Toledo core is probably the best AFFORDABLE thing AMD is pushin out. I would totally go with conroe, but as of now my budget isnt allowing, and i cant afford a 500+ CPU. Now to find a good mobo with a Ati chipset!!!

Edit: changed whole top part cuz AM2 is uber expensive and didnt wanna post 2 times in a row because i have a pet peve about that


also, anyone know what ATI chipset i would need to run a x300 and, to crossfire a pair of x1600's???
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Old 09-08-06, 04:08 PM   #10
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hmmm..... right now I'm looking at the Athlon 64 X2 4200, but the socket AM2 one, if i can find a Ati mobo with a crossfire chipset, thats a good deal for AM2, i might be in business, but I'm not paying 180 for a mobo, they can forget that


also, anyone know what ATI chipset i would need to run a x300 and, to crossfire a pair of x1600's???
Well I've got the Abit AT8 32X xfire board with the X2 4400+/939 and I'm happy so far, but I guess it's out of your price range.
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Old 09-08-06, 04:39 PM   #11
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contary to what i JUST posted (sorry i'm very fickle) i actually like the athlon 4000 alot, the dual-core thing would only really help during muli-tasking which I dont do alot of, plus its almost 100 dollars less, which sorta saves me


so here the set up as it would be (this is most likely the FINAL edition as it fits perfectly into my price range and would make me one happy camper.)

Athlon 64 4000 2.40ghtz, 2000mhtz FSB, 1mb l2 cache
Ati Radeon x300 128mb (only temporary untill I get enough to buy a x1600 PRO, no money spent on this one, i got it from a friend)
1gb RAM
win xp home
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Old 09-08-06, 04:56 PM   #12
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The Core 2 duo is much different than what you might think. It's not two seperate processors that run different tasks. It can do that, but it's more like two seperate processors that split the load on 1 task at the same time. This allows the processors to share the load 50/50 resulting in much less power consumption and reduced heat build up from an overworked single processor.
Therefore, a 2.4 x 2 core 2 duo is more like a 4.8Ghz in a way
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Old 09-09-06, 12:30 PM   #13
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I'm using the Athlon 64 3700+, and having a great time with it. My rig is as follows:

CPU: Athlon 64 3700, socket 754
MB: DFI Lanparty NF3 250GB
Ram: 1gig PC3200
Vid: Geforce 6800GT, AGP 8
HD: 80Gig primary, 120gig secondary drive, both Ultra DMA5

Other non-speed related stuff:
Case: Antec SOHO big grey metallic windowed thing
PS: 470W Antec
CD: Plextor DVD+RW primary, 52x CD-rom secondary
Monitor: 19inch Sony LCD

It's a fast rig. I originally had a DFI Lanparty NF2 and an Athlon XP3200, and got the Geforce vid card for that. So it's an AGP board. When I was next upgrading, I didn't want to ditch the vid card, so I was stuck with AGP motherboards. I had a good experience with the DFI lp2 board, so I opted for another DFI board, this time NF3. I got it for $99. The CPU cost me $200+, can't remember right now. It's been a while.

Overall, the performance is great. I can't complain. I have room for another gig of ram, I can always put more storage in, in the shape of larger, faster hard drives (the DFI NF3 board gives you the option of Ultra ATA or SATA), so I'm sorted for the next while. The Geforce 6800GT wasn't on the market awfully long, but it's fast as hell. I'm glad I bought one when I did. I won't be hurting myself to remain with it. The next upgrade I make will have to be toward a PCI-E solution, and I can't afford to do that for a long time
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Old 09-09-06, 01:43 PM   #14
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Do as subserpent suggests. Check out how much a newfangled intel "conroe" / Core Duo setup will cost you. It is superior to AMD's offerings in almost every way at the moment. Unless it is hideously more expensive than an AMD setup, why go for 2nd best?

Note: I run an AMD X2 setup myself, and have been AMD user since 2001. But I'd swich with the bat on an eyelid. I stayed away from intel because the P4 was crap and they got cocky with their silly rambus shenanigans. The new "P5" seems to be really good, however.
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Old 09-09-06, 07:06 PM   #15
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I have a feling that my PC becomes a little old & slow
Anyway, i'm also trapped with AGP.
Upgraded from Xp1800+ to Barton 2600+ 12 moths ago ( 1 year for CPU is like ice age for earth ) and after some time changed the GF 5200FX for GF 6600 GT by GALAXY ( stock oc 525mhz ) so for now it's enough for me.
COD2, BF2 works fine on 1024x768 with high details. In SH3 i get 40 FPS on average so for now i'll wait maybe a year, when Vista, DX10 and DualCore will become more common.I hope they won't change socket or any technology in next 12 moths. I'm trapped now in socket 462 and AGP, never thought that PCX will gain popularity so quickly and that after P4 showed it's limits and everyone wondered what Inet will do ( some sayed they'll combine P M with something new) they bring a Core Duo battleship. I'm sure that AMD has somethig to counter Intel supremacy in some time, but at the moment any AMD fan must admit that Intel Core Duo is reeaally fast and OC well wich is the problem in recent AMD CPU's (see Tomshardware for more info)
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