Bad_weather_guns ???

Panama Red · 10-14-05, 11:43 AM

I have down loaded the bad_weather_guns mod, but there is no Readme included. Could some one please tell me what this mod does ???

Thanks

rulle34 · 10-14-05, 11:56 AM

It makes it possible to man deck gun and AA guns at winds>5 m/s.

This is easy to mod yourself.
Open your NSS_UboatXX.cfg file (with notepad or another texteditor) (data\Submarine\NSS_Uboatxx\NSS_UboatXX.cfg) and change the value for "stormconditions" to the value you prefer. The side effect is that this value also control when crew change clothes to soutwest-caps and oilskins.

Panama Red · 10-14-05, 12:02 PM

Thanks, I think it would be easier to change it my self than use this mod.

rulle34 · 10-14-05, 12:03 PM

Yes! Absloutely

Another thing, while you are there in that file, change the "SurfaceDepth=" to something higher, I use 8.8 so you can run with your decks awash. Crew still on deck while running deeper with your sub, but still surfaced. Makes divetime faster.

Gizzmoe · 10-14-05, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Panama Red

I have down loaded the bad_weather_guns mod, but there is no Readme included. Could some one please tell me what this mod does ???

Sorry, I thought I had included a readme. Unpack the archive to sh3\data\submarine and overwrite all files. Make a backup first. It also includes the "decks awash" feature that rulle34 has mentioned.

Panama Red · 10-14-05, 12:37 PM

Gizzmoe:
What value did you set for your stormconditions ???

Gizzmoe · 10-14-05, 12:41 PM

Set it to

StormConditions=15,1

Then you can use them in any weather condition.

Panama Red · 10-14-05, 01:02 PM

Thank you.

gouldjg · 10-14-05, 01:10 PM

I have just been testing a theory where you could have the ability to use guns in any bad weather but get a higher fatigue penalty.

To me it is like this.

I should choose if I should engage aircraft or not in any weather condition. The concequences of my choice in bad weather will take its toll on my men however.

Same for deck gun but even higher.

I am almost ready to release these changes along with a 24 hr crew system.

Gizzmoe · 10-14-05, 01:11 PM

Sounds good!

BipBip · 10-14-05, 03:14 PM

Running decks awash sounds good, but was it possible ? On the diesel, I mean.

Where are the diesel air intakes located on type II, VII and IX ?

About the storm, It would have be nice to be able to set 2 windspeeds for main gun and AA guns. Waves can go over the deck without being dangerous for the seamen who man the AA guns...

rulle34 · 10-14-05, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BipBip

Running decks awash sounds good, but was it possible ? On the diesel, I mean.

Where are the diesel air intakes located on type II, VII and IX ?

It was used in reality. And often used when quick dive was needed
Intakes for diesels could probably just come from the open conningtower. It was mesnion in a book that it was a big draft into the dieselcompartment if not the door was closed.

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Originally Posted by BipBip

About the storm, It would have be nice to be able to set 2 windspeeds for main gun and AA guns. Waves can go over the deck without being dangerous for the seamen who man the AA guns...

I agree to that. But this has been discussed before and I think it was not possible to to that.

Pablo · 10-14-05, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BipBip

Running decks awash sounds good, but was it possible ? On the diesel, I mean.

Where are the diesel air intakes located on type II, VII and IX ?

According to David Westwood's The Type VII U-boat the diesel air intake and exhaust on the Type VII U-boat are inside the aft casing of the conning tower, with the top just below the grating where the watch crew is standing/ The air intake and exhaust are above water unless water is over the feet of the folks on watch in the conning tower.

On the Type VIIB you would find them almost directly underneath an aft-facing 20mm AA gunner, while on boats with a wintergarten you would find it underneath the AA gun closest to the attack periscope.

I believe there's a mechanism in place to stop water being ingested during heavy seas.

Pablo

Excalibur Bane · 10-14-05, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Panama Red

Thanks, I think it would be easier to change it my self than use this mod.

I tried this for awhile, but quickly got sick of my deckgun wild firing all over the place from the waves. You can't hit the broadside of a barn with the deckgun in a rough sea.

Be nice if the mod came with something to boost the stability of the gun so it's actually useable, but we can't have everything in life, can we?

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-14-05, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur Bane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panama Red

Thanks, I think it would be easier to change it my self than use this mod.

I tried this for awhile, but quickly got sick of my deckgun wild firing all over the place from the waves. You can't hit the broadside of a barn with the deckgun in a rough sea.

Be nice if the mod came with something to boost the stability of the gun so it's actually useable, but we can't have everything in life, can we?

Some of us would like to undo its current level of stability as well but have run into all sorts of probs in attempting to do so.

10-14-05, 11:43 AM	#1
Panama Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Irmo, SC, USA Posts: 229 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Bad_weather_guns ??? I have down loaded the bad_weather_guns mod, but there is no Readme included. Could some one please tell me what this mod does ??? Thanks

10-14-05, 11:56 AM	#2
rulle34 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 835 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	It makes it possible to man deck gun and AA guns at winds>5 m/s. This is easy to mod yourself. Open your NSS_UboatXX.cfg file (with notepad or another texteditor) (data\Submarine\NSS_Uboatxx\NSS_UboatXX.cfg) and change the value for "stormconditions" to the value you prefer. The side effect is that this value also control when crew change clothes to soutwest-caps and oilskins. __________________

10-14-05, 12:03 PM	#4
rulle34 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 835 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Yes! Absloutely Another thing, while you are there in that file, change the "SurfaceDepth=" to something higher, I use 8.8 so you can run with your decks awash. Crew still on deck while running deeper with your sub, but still surfaced. Makes divetime faster. __________________

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10-14-05, 12:02 PM	#3
Panama Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Irmo, SC, USA Posts: 229 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Thanks, I think it would be easier to change it my self than use this mod.

10-14-05, 12:37 PM	#6
Panama Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Irmo, SC, USA Posts: 229 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Gizzmoe: What value did you set for your stormconditions ???

10-14-05, 12:41 PM	#7
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Set it to StormConditions=15,1 Then you can use them in any weather condition.

10-14-05, 01:02 PM	#8
Panama Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Irmo, SC, USA Posts: 229 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Thank you.

10-14-05, 01:10 PM	#9
gouldjg Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 881 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I have just been testing a theory where you could have the ability to use guns in any bad weather but get a higher fatigue penalty. To me it is like this. I should choose if I should engage aircraft or not in any weather condition. The concequences of my choice in bad weather will take its toll on my men however. Same for deck gun but even higher. I am almost ready to release these changes along with a 24 hr crew system.

10-14-05, 01:11 PM	#10
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Sounds good!

10-14-05, 03:14 PM	#11
BipBip Watch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: U-156, somewhere between Europe and America. Posts: 17 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Running decks awash sounds good, but was it possible ? On the diesel, I mean. Where are the diesel air intakes located on type II, VII and IX ? About the storm, It would have be nice to be able to set 2 windspeeds for main gun and AA guns. Waves can go over the deck without being dangerous for the seamen who man the AA guns...