So is this Silent Hunter 6 or what?

Dynamic single player campaign covering the whole war? Coordinating attacks with AI packs? All the things we've been asking for since SH4?

Or is the meat of the game playing with the guy who doesn't even know how to run the gramaphone 10/10 would ruin other's gameplay again?

Cause that quote, it's not encouraging me to buy the game. It's encouraging me to run, very far, from it.

[Onkel Neal]

I sent him a message thanking him for his amusing summary of Wolfpack and he quickly replied back to me. We played a game together Friday evening. He was a great guy, eager to learn how things work and to play a serious game. He also had a good sense of humor, so it was a lot of fun.

And we sank 22,000 tons.

He allowed me to suggest the approach, and set up the intercept. I explained what I was doing and why, and answered his questions. I gave him a rundown on getting a good TDC solution. I let him manage the attack on a small 3 ship convoy, unescorted. He sank two ships by torpedo, and one with a combination deck gun and torpedo. I like to think I helped get a new guy into subsims.










In my experience since the game released in March, I've played over 100 hours and 96~99% of the random players I've joined in a game get serious pretty quickly when the first "Contact!" is shouted out. Even the rare goofball respects a serious player enough to join the effort.

My philosophy has always been to give people the benefit of the doubt. I like to think of myself as an ambassador for serious subsim play.

So, no. It isn't SH6 or anything we've been asking for since SH4. Ok.

[derstosstrupp]

Originally Posted by Slyguy3129

So, no. It isn't SH6 or anything we've been asking for since SH4. Ok.

I see your concern - keep in mind this is early access so who knows what the future holds, but I’ll tell you this: the experience of getting together with serious players in this is second to none and truly trumps any immersion I’ve experienced in other subsims, and I’m a longtime subsimmer. Sure, other sims have things that this doesn’t (yet), but the opposite is true in many ways.

My point- join us! Neal and I have a regular group that meets up every week at least once, and I can guarantee you no funny business troll behavior or incompetence is in sight. Keep an eye on the Wolfpack League forum!

Originally Posted by derstosstrupp

I see your concern - keep in mind this is early access so who knows what the future holds, but I’ll tell you this: the experience of getting together with serious players in this is second to none and truly trumps any immersion I’ve experienced in other subsims, and I’m a longtime subsimmer. Sure, other sims have things that this doesn’t (yet), but the opposite is true in many ways.

My point- join us! Neal and I have a regular group that meets up every week at least once, and I can guarantee you no funny business troll behavior or incompetence is in sight. Keep an eye on the Wolfpack League forum!

I'm good. I can't stand multiplayer games, they tend to attract the Fortnite crowds. This looks like that Star Trek VR crew game. And that game was an awful excuse for a Trek experience. This looks like the same, with a WW2 coat of paint.

I guess when even the owner of Subsim can't give us the game we've been asking for since SH4 came out, we are never going to see it.

Playing with other people, will never Trump my Silent Service 2-Silent Hunter 4 experience all by myself. It's just the newest fad in gaming. But atleast the arcade crowd is happy. God forbid the arcade, simplify everything, looking for ships is boring crowd be unhappy. I'm not looking for another JRPG lite, to "get people into sub"sims"", we have 30 years worth of sub games to do that. I want the game we've been begging for since we realized SH4 was never going to be it. And I'm a bit put out that everyone else seems to get what they want, but we don't even in regards to our own damn community. It seems like people don't want to make submarine simulations (apparently sub"sims" is now just the JRPG version of submarine simulations), just sub"sims".

[Onkel Neal]

I'm not the Fortnight crowd.
derstosstrupp is not the Fortnight crowd.
Captain Summers, Rush the Bus, Stormfly, Paladin, Caddy are not the Fortnight crowd.

Wolfpack is the game we've been asking for.

And there's nothing arcade about Wolfpack. You might need to try it before you judge it. In Silent Hunter you simply pressed P for periscope depth, or C for crash dive. Time compression. Saved games. God mode map. Let's talk about arcade.

[Outeniqua]

Originally Posted by Slyguy3129

Some inane tripe, from someone that acts exactly like a Fortnite player.

What an utter pillock. Christ man, you don't even know what JRPG is!

[Justaguyinnc]

Vent all ya wish SlyGuy.. would get boring if we all sang as a Choir.. it is "normal" behavior to vent in forums as is normal to bash a vent'er.. stuff.. it happens..



I can agree with some of Slyguy frustrations.. would be great to have a SH6.. but I am not going to call out a game that never said it was going to be SH6 and stomp my feet.


My personal Online Submarine game would be a few (Human)Destroyers escorting a convoy of freighters with a few (human)Wolfpack attacking us.. we all want something.. we NEVER get the whole deal.. anyways.. Wolfpack never said it was going to be my vision so I am good with that.



You havn't tried WolfPack Slyguy? personally, I think that is a mistake if you like Sub games.. but anyways.. I only have about 25 hours in Wolfpack so far and all of them have been SOLO.. I am grateful the DEV team is working on Single player additions to control the boats but I can almost get by already.. it really is needed except for the VERY niche team that can work together. I am not much on Sub Multiplayer, especially when you watch Twitch and see how it usually turns out in WolfPack. I don't play well with others when I want the immersion of the game but I don't want to "search out" good teams that I may not live up too either. I am not against making new friends..I just don't want to wait and work around other people schedules.



And wow, Wolfpack is immersive to "me".. LOVE the sounds... splash, although I would like a larger gramophone folder for my own use on music.. no problem..I just run another program and the destroyers don't hear it.. ;-) it's what I always done.. accept what we got for now and improvise. Will enjoy the PLANES, ship radio and Echo coming in the "near future" please note I expect "near future".. or I might stomp my feet too lol.. jus'sayin



I never tried this.. but I surely hope I can solo in Wolfpack if the internet goes down? having to connect to a server.. well, That would be very frustrating and make me stomp my feet here too.. I remember some old games that went offline and you couldn't play them after.. might been awhile, but it does happen.. hmm, maybe I should try it.. jus'sayin.


No Campaign? I do like a story, only reason I still buy titles like COD ( bad example?) but don't play the Multiplayer much.. Well, time compression to areas in SH Series really wasn't my thing to find the random freighter. I like the simple "MISSION Base" Wolfpack offers. I can pretend I time compressed to find the convoy.. it is all I did in SH series really.. of course to see an ocean get more "wild" at times and a coastline now and then sure would be nice.. "hint"...



Although SH5 was buggy.. to walk around a whole Submarine was amazing to "me" and I wish WolfPack would open the other compartments (or at least the toilet we all see clipping behind the Hydrophone.. its already there and assume the other compartments are too..for the most part)


I am just happy there are two fairly good starts to NEW Submarine games within a month apart from each other and I am getting BOTH.. half way there.

[rmax]

Originally Posted by Justaguyinnc

My personal Online Submarine game would be a few (Human)Destroyers escorting a convoy of freighters with a few (human)Wolfpack attacking us.. we all want something.. we NEVER get the whole deal.. anyways.. Wolfpack never said it was going to be my vision so I am good with that.

Sold! I'll take two.

Interesting thread. I understand Sly's POV, just that he took the BdU order a little to heart:

Be More Aggressive   x

[Ragnarokkr]

maybe the devs will turn out to be merciful gods and in the hush hush fashion add in destroyers as playable models with all the bells and whistles that come with pvp ww2 naval combat


my god im getting all too excited

[Justaguyinnc]

Originally Posted by Ragnarokkr

maybe the devs will turn out to be merciful gods and in the hush hush fashion add in destroyers as playable models with all the bells and whistles that come with pvp ww2 naval combat

YEAR 2 Anniversary DLC for 34.99... whoops..there it is..

[BlockadeRunner]

Wolfpack is perfect for my friends and I. We are real into the flight sims (IL2, DCS, BMS, etc.) and this works perfectly! A lot of my friends have short attention spans, so to actually sit down and learn all the full realism aspects by themselves is a tall order. But to multicrew, learn with friends as you play is in my opinion the best part. It's certainly broadening the Subsim community with more casual players.

Now you may say that's a bad thing, but if it's generating more revenue and more interest, we're going to get more Uboat type games. I say there's nothing wrong with more simulator games, even if they arent quite everyone's preferred sim. For example, apparently there's an Early Access game called Re-entry, and its an Apollo/Mercury/Gemini simulator. I picked it up on sale and trying to learn it, but what would make it better is if it was multicrew so I can play with my friend who's an astronomy major. Supposedly it is supposed to get multiplayer soon too, so keep an eye on that one!

[jdski]

^ The History Guy did an episode on this story I watched not to long ago.