Reinforce Alert - Tiers

[p7p8]

Tiers for current RA version.

Of course its my subjective opinion for SSN's:


Tier X ------ Seawolf -/- Akula III
Tier IX ----- Trenchant/Seawolf 23
Tier VIII --- Virginia/Trafalgar/Suffren -/- Akula II
Tier VII ---- LA III
Tier VI ----- Shang -/- Akula I improved/Mike
Tier V -------LA II -/- Alfa
Tier IV ----- LA I -/- Akula I
Tier III ----- Sturgeon L/Amethyste -/- Victor III
Tier II ------ Sturgeon -/- Victor II
Tier I ------- Rubis -/- Victor I

Im not sure about Shang (Type 093)
Are you agree with me?
Have you own Tier proposition?

[Wolfcat]

I kinda disagree on VA class. It's the newest class of subs in the US navy. Its sensors and computer systems should prolly be the best in the world. At least it should match or even surpass the latest Seawolf class. I am not talking about the speed, maneuverability or deep diving ability. But in terms of sensors and computers, it should not be less.

[FPSchazly]

Well, remember this is for as modeled in RA, not an absolute rating of real life. I'd personally put Virginia above Seawolf 23 and below Seawolf, as the game models the Virginia as slightly noisier, it is slower than Seawolf (should be faster than LA *cough* physics *cough*), and has fewer torpedo tubes.

[Wolfcat]

I would definitely agree with you on VA's speed and physics. I think they just quote the info off Wikipedia and take it as official. A nuke attack sub with a top speed below 30? That's just lack of common sense.

[FPSchazly]

Originally Posted by Wolfcat

I would definitely agree with you on VA's speed and physics. I think they just quote the info off Wikipedia and take it as official. A nuke attack sub with a top speed below 30? That's just lack of common sense.

It's worth noting that Permit and Sturgeon both had top speeds below 30 knots. Speed didn't come back until the LA. The Virginia basically has the same external dimensions as an LA, so you'd expect quite similar drag, and the Virginia has 40000 shp compared to the LA's 35000 shp, which alone would result in a top speed of about 34.5 knots with a back-of-the-napkin calculation (assuming the LA has a top speed of 33 knots and the Virginia has the same screw and drag properties of the LA). However, I'm not sure what type of drag/efficiency penalties apply with a pump jet. I think it's reasonable to assume the Virginia is the same top speed as the LA or maybe a knot more, given how similar the boats are in other respects.

[p7p8]

Virginia top speed is probably very close to value from RA (info from player who serve onboard real Virginia class) - i assume its less than 30 kts or not more than 30 kts.

Btw tiers table were made for RA 1.45 - not for real submarines

This is sensors comparison:



In my opinion Seawolf is much better than Virginia because have greater maximum and tactical speed and much greater firepower (and only noticable less sensitive sensors).