Meet one of Russia's master puppet players

[Skybird]

I have him on my radar since long. Of course I perceive him as an opponent of the Western states, he is, absolutely. But I admire him for his cleverness with which he not only surives but actively plays this game of global chess, adding a dimension of psychological warfare to it that is so much hidden like a puppet inside a puppet inside a puppet inside a puppet, that almost every decison maker and analyst in the West gives me the impression that he completely escapes to even realize that something is going on. Its names like his why I think that the Russians simply played the West against the wall since two decades. An extremely dangerous mind. And not in any need to hide it at all. That should make you think!

https://translate.google.de/translat...%3Dde-homepage

"Foreign politicians blame Russia for interference in elections and referendums. The reality is much more serious: Russia interferes with her brain, and they do not know what to do with their altered consciousness. "
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"Western experts are amazed at the "abnormal preferences of the Elektorate," Surkov writes: they are at a loss, and that is why they have spoken of an "invasion of populism." "You can call it that if you can not find words," Surkow mocks.

Moscow stands for the solution of the problems that Europe has, according to the Putin consultant - for a return to national. Quote: "When everyone was crazy about globalization and swarmed about a flat, borderless world, Moscow reminded us that sovereignty and national interests are important." Many accused Russia of "naïve attachment" to old ways, which was allegedly out of fashion long ago: "We have been taught that we should not stick to the values ​​of the 19th century, but move into the 21st century, in which There are no longer any sovereign nations and no nation states. "

In reality, however, everything happened "in the Moscow style" in the 21st century, says Surkov, who uses a wording that leaves a lot of room for maneuver: you can translate it to a trivialization that everything happened the way Moscow saw it; but most Russians will understand his choice of words in such a way that everything came just as Moscow has enforced and staged.

Examples include Putin's mastermind Donald Trump's electoral victory, Brexit and, so to speak, "the anti-migration foreclosure of Europe": all these are "just the first points in a long list of" ubiquitous developments towards de-globalization, restoration of sovereignty and nationalism ". The sentence reads like an announcement.

Russia's anti-globalist emphasis on strong national sovereignty is increasingly gaining worldwide acceptance, the 54-year-old wrote. The political system of Russia will last for another century and serve as a model for other countries around the world, he predicted: " Putin's system of power" is the "ideology of the future" and " an effective means of survival and nationhood for the next decades. "

Yes, the Russians know a thing or two about chess. And plans behind plans behind plans. When I check that to the German Weiberwirtschaft and the reality denial in Brussel... well... its a sad, sad story...

The upcoming uncertainty however is who will replace Putin one day. But it seems there are quite some names who will carry on with his heritage, whether the West likes that or not. And it was to expected hat Putin still is just one man only and canot rule and surive such a big country without a staff of capable, simliar minds around him. Just the Western hope that Russia after Putin's leave will just return again and repeat the mistake of the 90s - I think that hope is just naive.

[ikalugin]

Surkov being discussed seriously ha-ha.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I have him on my radar since long. Of course I perceive him as an opponent of the Western states, he is, absolutely. But I admire him for his cleverness with which he not only surives but actively plays this game of global chess, adding a dimension of psychological warfare to it that is so much hidden like a puppet inside a puppet inside a puppet inside a puppet, that almost every decison maker and analyst in the West gives me the impression that he completely escapes to even realize that something is going on. Its names like his why I think that the Russians simply played the West against the wall since two decades. An extremely dangerous mind. And not in any need to hide it at all. That should make you think!

https://translate.google.de/translat...%3Dde-homepage


Yes, the Russians know a thing or two about chess. And plans behind plans behind plans. When I check that to the German Weiberwirtschaft and the reality denial in Brussel... well... its a sad, sad story...

The upcoming uncertainty however is who will replace Putin one day. But it seems there are quite some names who will carry on with his heritage, whether the West likes that or not. And it was to expected hat Putin still is just one man only and canot rule and surive such a big country without a staff of capable, simliar minds around him. Just the Western hope that Russia after Putin's leave will just return again and repeat the mistake of the 90s - I think that hope is just naive.

This is from 2005.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-361236.html

[ikalugin]

This was over a decade ago. In the turbulent political climate we have he is currently not very relevant as a policy maker. In fact some of the people who made the decision to go forward with the Crimean operation (~5 years ago) are no longer running things but I guess such internal subtelties are lost to the external observer if they perceive the Russian political system as a grey monolyth.

[Skybird]

It shows one certain thing.

Because not many high profiled names from that turmoil survived politically long enough to still be around - and stronger than ever.

And I think you perfectly play into his interests.


https://medium.com/@wmilam/the-theat...v-9dd8a15e0efb


This is not the reputation and biography of a man that is as insignificant as you try to make him appear. I lost track of many names coming and going in Russian politics, especially those the cameras of the world usually focus on in the news, I am not even that interested in them at all. His name I never have let slip. Too many strings and pointers in the past one and a half decade pointed at his direction.

[ikalugin]

Surkov has never recovered since he got kicked from the internal policy seat in the administration due to the white ribbon protests. Since then there were already two different people in that position, who have set different policies and had different administrative style, with the most recent being what you would call a very long runner (he apointed Putin to his first big federal post - the head of the FSB).
Recently (past 5 years) Surkov only had a very minor role in coordinating the state and non state actors in Donbas, because broad foreighn policy was (and is) in other hands.



And this is just the normal policy maker rotation based on their performance and does not account for burn outs (ie Ivanov), so the actual fluctuation in the policy making is much, much more significant across the state.

And I think you perfectly play into his interests.

Thing is, I know quite a few of those policy makers and have (as extension of my family) my own intersts in the broader game.
Which is why I sort of need to know who sets the course and what their style is.

[Skybird]

Your minimising of Surkov'S role in the past years and the events on the Crimean do not match with the role he has played there as a masterminding script writer as reported in Western media already years ago.



But we have disagreed on the unfolding of the Crimean annexation in the past before. Maybe the disagreement on Surkov just is consistent, then.



It tells somehting about his talent or/and relevance if in a regime like Putin's you get kicked from higher ranks - but instead of disappearing in political oblivion making a comeback due to a nod by the great leader - who actually was the one resurrecting him. There were quite some names at thew top ten in the past 15 years who - once fallen from favor - never were seen or mentioned again.