[TEC] Enemy AI subs don show up on radar?

Bubblehead1980 · 04-13-17, 10:18 PM

Anyone know why they wont show up on surface (SJ) radar? How to fix this?

Sniper297 · 04-13-17, 11:08 PM

Same reason tugboats, gunboats, sampans, junks, and fishing boats don't show up on radar, cross section above the surface is too small for a target.

USsubparts\Sensors_sub_US.sim has the "Standard detectable surface at maximum range (in meters)." values which you could adjust for smaller targets, dunno if it would work.

ETR3(SS) · 04-14-17, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper297

Same reason tugboats, gunboats, sampans, junks, and fishing boats don't show up on radar

Except those show up on radar for me.

keltos01 · 04-14-17, 09:06 AM

They were big enough. A sub cruising in dense fog was suddenly bracketed by explosions near Kisha in?43?
The Japanese captain then understood he had been found by radar... he escaped by the skin of his teeth

Sniper297 · 04-14-17, 11:43 AM

"Except those show up on radar for me"

Might be a difference between 1.4 and 1.5, or a mega mod you're using. I'm cruising in time compression, pop out for "radar contact" only if it's the size of a subchaser or larger. If it's a boat rather than a ship I get the visual sighting report instead. I've seen IJN subs docked in Japanese ports, always the miniature ones with the tiny conning towers, never saw one at sea.

aanker · 04-14-17, 12:25 PM

My Sonar operator - whatever his title is - won't report contacts of fishing boats, sampans, etc, but if I look at the SJ A-scope and PPI screens they can be easily seen all over in the right areas when they are present..

If I can see them, he should see and report them. Instead, my lookouts spot them at 5.5 - 6 nm, just outside their 4.9 nm visual range.

Isn't there an adjustment that can be made to Sensors_sub_US.sim, or some other file like, Contacts.cfg, Sensors.cfg, etc that would make the operator report these contacts? Furthermore, land masses should show up on SJ, ..... they don't.

Subs should show up - even at periscope depth, and be reported too.

All of these vessels showed up and were reported in SH1, and land masses were visible on the SJ screen. Yes, SH1 is a game and has its flaws (too much traffic), but the SH1 Devs had "Bud' Gruner, CO USS Skate as a consultant. I doubt he would have permitted his name to be associated with a piece of junk.

Point me in the right direction and I'll dig, even hex edit the exe if this problem can be fixed.

Don't get me started on the missing Bathythermograph : )

Happy Hunting!

04-13-17, 10:18 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,101 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Enemy AI subs don show up on radar? Anyone know why they wont show up on surface (SJ) radar? How to fix this?

04-14-17, 09:06 AM	#4
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	They were big enough. A sub cruising in dense fog was suddenly bracketed by explosions near Kisha in?43? The Japanese captain then understood he had been found by radar... he escaped by the skin of his teeth __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

04-14-17, 12:25 PM	#6
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	My Sonar operator - whatever his title is - won't report contacts of fishing boats, sampans, etc, but if I look at the SJ A-scope and PPI screens they can be easily seen all over in the right areas when they are present.. If I can see them, he should see and report them. Instead, my lookouts spot them at 5.5 - 6 nm, just outside their 4.9 nm visual range. Isn't there an adjustment that can be made to Sensors_sub_US.sim, or some other file like, Contacts.cfg, Sensors.cfg, etc that would make the operator report these contacts? Furthermore, land masses should show up on SJ, ..... they don't. Subs should show up - even at periscope depth, and be reported too. All of these vessels showed up and were reported in SH1, and land masses were visible on the SJ screen. Yes, SH1 is a game and has its flaws (too much traffic), but the SH1 Devs had "Bud' Gruner, CO USS Skate as a consultant. I doubt he would have permitted his name to be associated with a piece of junk. Point me in the right direction and I'll dig, even hex edit the exe if this problem can be fixed. Don't get me started on the missing Bathythermograph : ) Happy Hunting! __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day." Last edited by aanker; 04-14-17 at 12:41 PM.

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04-13-17, 11:08 PM	#2
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Same reason tugboats, gunboats, sampans, junks, and fishing boats don't show up on radar, cross section above the surface is too small for a target. USsubparts\Sensors_sub_US.sim has the "Standard detectable surface at maximum range (in meters)." values which you could adjust for smaller targets, dunno if it would work.

04-14-17, 11:43 AM	#5
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	"Except those show up on radar for me" Might be a difference between 1.4 and 1.5, or a mega mod you're using. I'm cruising in time compression, pop out for "radar contact" only if it's the size of a subchaser or larger. If it's a boat rather than a ship I get the visual sighting report instead. I've seen IJN subs docked in Japanese ports, always the miniature ones with the tiny conning towers, never saw one at sea.