Biggest DDoS Attack ever hits US and Europe

Oberon · 10-21-16, 01:49 PM

I briefly mentioned this in Skybirds thread but since then it seems to have spread a bit. Seems to have been a large scale co-ordinated assault on DNS servers on the US East Coast, quite impressive in its scale.
Who's behind it? Who can say, maybe a national agency or maybe an organisation, or maybe just the 'Internet hacker known as 4chan'.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/10/thi...ut-down-today/

Julhelm · 10-21-16, 03:33 PM

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Onkel Neal · 10-21-16, 03:35 PM

Wow, not good. I wonder if there's some way to determine who is responsible?

Oberon · 10-21-16, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Julhelm

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eddie · 10-21-16, 04:15 PM

I keep wondering if there is some kind of way to come up with technology that would render a DOS attack ineffective?

Takeda Shingen · 10-21-16, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

I keep wondering if there is some kind of way to come up with technology that would render a DOS attack ineffective?

It would only be effective until someone finds a way to circumvent it. That probably would take about a week. It would seem that nothing is hack-proof.

Oberon · 10-21-16, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bears

It would only be effective until someone finds a way to circumvent it. That probably would take about a week. It would seem that nothing is hack-proof.

The old saying goes, as soon as you make a bigger mouse-trap, they make a bigger mouse.

Oberon · 10-21-16, 05:02 PM

Interesting conspiracy theory suddenly has sprung up. Involving Mr Assange.

Wikileak's twitter apparently showed 'heavy armed police' outside the Ecuadorian embassy on Tuesday, the internet to the embassy was cut around the same day. Today there was an evacuation at London City Airport, the closest airport to the embassy because of a 'chemical incident' (early reports indicate it may have been a canister of CS gas) and now the attacks taking twitter offline.

#ShowUsJulian has started up on twitter, needless to say, and people are calling on Trump to pledge to pardon Assange if he gained the presidency, claiming that it will win him a landslide of votes.

Interesting stuff.

mapuc · 10-21-16, 05:15 PM

Are you telling us(me mostly) that this DDoS attack and the attack on twitter most likely have USA and its government as the "yours sincerely" ?

Just wondering

Markus

Oberon · 10-21-16, 05:23 PM

Well, that's what the conspiracy reckons, but honestly I couldn't tell you who did this...primarily because no-one knows yet. I mean, Dyn said that they didn't think that this was a state actor, but it's hard to say. I've seen other accounts that say that wikileaks has claimed responsibility because they thought that Assange had been killed by the British government.

There's going to be a lot of speculation in the coming 24 hours, but this is a definite wake-up call to ISPs and DNS providers that such a large scale assault using what is essentially a very primitive method of attack is not only possible but probable.

Primative it may be though, but the thinking and coding behind it, very smart, very clever. Bot-nets run from millions of items connected to the internet, printers, routers, cameras, all sending a ping to Dyn asking it for information. For all you know your router could be doing it right now, and you wouldn't even know it. Perhaps a miniscule portion of lag as you load a new page, you dismiss it as 'the internet playing up', as we all do, but that one request for information has gone out not just from your router but millions of other devices all across the world.

From a technical standpoint, it's fantastically impressive.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2016...-the-internet/

mapuc · 10-21-16, 05:42 PM

Erased after having read Oberon's comments a second time

"your router could be doing it right now" Even if I have a two-way firewall(I think I have)

Markus

Oberon · 10-21-16, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Erased after having read Oberon's comments a second time

"your router could be doing it right now" Even if I have a two-way firewall(I think I have)

Markus

Depends on what is let through it I guess, as Two Bears put it, you build a firewall and someone finds a way around it, so you patch that, and then someone else finds a way around that.

August · 10-21-16, 07:19 PM

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Torplexed · 10-21-16, 07:21 PM

I blame all those blenders and coffee makers connected to the internet. Never trusted those things.

Oberon · 10-21-16, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

I blame all those blenders and coffee makers connected to the internet. Never trusted those things.

The pepper pots are the worst ones:

10-21-16, 01:49 PM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Biggest DDoS Attack ever hits US and Europe I briefly mentioned this in Skybirds thread but since then it seems to have spread a bit. Seems to have been a large scale co-ordinated assault on DNS servers on the US East Coast, quite impressive in its scale. Who's behind it? Who can say, maybe a national agency or maybe an organisation, or maybe just the 'Internet hacker known as 4chan'. http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/10/thi...ut-down-today/

10-21-16, 03:35 PM	#3
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Wow, not good. I wonder if there's some way to determine who is responsible? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

10-21-16, 04:15 PM	#5
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I keep wondering if there is some kind of way to come up with technology that would render a DOS attack ineffective? __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

10-21-16, 05:42 PM	#11
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Erased after having read Oberon's comments a second time "your router could be doing it right now" Even if I have a two-way firewall(I think I have) Markus Last edited by mapuc; 10-21-16 at 05:56 PM.

10-21-16, 07:21 PM	#14
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I blame all those blenders and coffee makers connected to the internet. Never trusted those things. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

10-21-16, 03:33 PM	#2
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	- .... . / .-. ..- ... ... .. .- -. ... / .- .-. . / -.-. --- -- .. -. --.

10-21-16, 05:02 PM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Interesting conspiracy theory suddenly has sprung up. Involving Mr Assange. Wikileak's twitter apparently showed 'heavy armed police' outside the Ecuadorian embassy on Tuesday, the internet to the embassy was cut around the same day. Today there was an evacuation at London City Airport, the closest airport to the embassy because of a 'chemical incident' (early reports indicate it may have been a canister of CS gas) and now the attacks taking twitter offline. #ShowUsJulian has started up on twitter, needless to say, and people are calling on Trump to pledge to pardon Assange if he gained the presidency, claiming that it will win him a landslide of votes. Interesting stuff.

10-21-16, 05:15 PM	#9
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Are you telling us(me mostly) that this DDoS attack and the attack on twitter most likely have USA and its government as the "yours sincerely" ? Just wondering Markus

10-21-16, 05:23 PM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well, that's what the conspiracy reckons, but honestly I couldn't tell you who did this...primarily because no-one knows yet. I mean, Dyn said that they didn't think that this was a state actor, but it's hard to say. I've seen other accounts that say that wikileaks has claimed responsibility because they thought that Assange had been killed by the British government. There's going to be a lot of speculation in the coming 24 hours, but this is a definite wake-up call to ISPs and DNS providers that such a large scale assault using what is essentially a very primitive method of attack is not only possible but probable. Primative it may be though, but the thinking and coding behind it, very smart, very clever. Bot-nets run from millions of items connected to the internet, printers, routers, cameras, all sending a ping to Dyn asking it for information. For all you know your router could be doing it right now, and you wouldn't even know it. Perhaps a miniscule portion of lag as you load a new page, you dismiss it as 'the internet playing up', as we all do, but that one request for information has gone out not just from your router but millions of other devices all across the world. From a technical standpoint, it's fantastically impressive. http://arstechnica.com/security/2016...-the-internet/

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