Will driving license be obsolete in the future ?

[mapuc]

Will driving license be obsolete in the future ?

That is what came into my mind, when I saw an episode on a Danish Science program- This episode was about future cars and the cars taking over more and more.

Some day in the future you can let your car take you from A to B without having done anything.

Maybe not a Driving License as we know it today, maybe some certificate-Instead of going to some driving school and use hours in traing to drive a car and hours of reading theories, you have some hours learning how to take the car from the place where it got broke to a "safe haven"

Markus

[Red October1984]

Or maybe instead of driver licensing....they introduce a new system that enters all of your information into the cars onboard computer so that the car is only registered to you. Nobody else will be able to drive the car and nobody will be able to use the car without entering license data.

Who will develop this? Ubisoft Auto, inc.

[Oberon]

I think it's going to be a few decades yet before driverless cars and transport come into full service. We've had driverless trains now for over two decades but they've remained either as small light transport devices (Docklands Light Railway) or have a driver on stand-by to take over if something goes wrong (Jubilee line underground) and the idea of taking the driver completely out of the cab has received a lot of negative pushback from Transport Unions. I can understand this, after all, it's going to make a lot of people unemployed if you remove the human factor from transportation driving. Likewise in aircraft, they can pretty much fly themselves on autopilot now, I'm not sure about take-off but I'm pretty sure the most recent Airbus (and therefore likely Boeing too) craft can land on autopilot. The amount of crew in the cockpit has reduced since I was a child, once upon a time there would be at least three, sometimes four. Pilot, Co-pilot, Navigator and Engineer. Now it's just Pilot and Co-pilot, with computers taking the role of Navigator and Engineer.

One question that I have seen come up again and again with regards to driverless cars, and it's one that I don't think that anyone has been able to get a good answer to. So far driverless cars have avoided accidents through their superior computing reflexes, but what would the computer car do if there came a time when it had to choose between crashing into a pedestrian, or into an inanimate object, thus injuring or killing the occupants of the car. Would it determine how many occupants are in the car and weigh that against the life of one person on the road and thus hit the person on the road and spare the four occupants of the car? How would it determine who to hurt and who to save?
That's a determination that is special to a road based vehicle as opposed to a train or ship or plane because of the open nature of the path the vehicle is travelling, you can't swerve around someone in a train .
I would be very interested to see how such a scenario would be played out by the onboard computer, because you can guarantee that it will happen at some point and when it does and someone is hurt, the media will be all over it like flies.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

what would the computer car do if there came a time when it had to choose between crashing into a pedestrian, or into an inanimate object, thus injuring or killing the occupants of the car. Would it determine how many occupants are in the car and weigh that against the life of one person on the road and thus hit the person on the road and spare the four occupants of the car? How would it determine who to hurt and who to save?
That's a determination that is special to a road based vehicle as opposed to a train or ship or plane because of the open nature of the path the vehicle is travelling, you can't swerve around someone in a train .
I would be very interested to see how such a scenario would be played out by the onboard computer, because you can guarantee that it will happen at some point and when it does and someone is hurt, the media will be all over it like flies.

Made me remember this article

http://www.iflscience.com/technology...-good-scenario

Markus

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Made me remember this article

http://www.iflscience.com/technology...-good-scenario

Markus

One possible solution would be to make the car and its occupants better able to withstand the possibility of a collision with a solid object, then the car would automatically serve off the road with the knowledge that even if it goes into a wall it won't kill the people inside it.
Quite how that happens is less simple, restraints can help and hinder equally, air bags are a possibility but if they deploy at the wrong time they can be problematic.
It's all a matter of Inertia and Mass.

Thanks Newton...

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

One possible solution would be to make the car and its occupants better able to withstand the possibility of a collision with a solid object, then the car would automatically serve off the road with the knowledge that even if it goes into a wall it won't kill the people inside it.
Quite how that happens is less simple, restraints can help and hinder equally, air bags are a possibility but if they deploy at the wrong time they can be problematic.
It's all a matter of Inertia and Mass.

Thanks Newton...

First this(about the safety for the driver and passengers)



Second

Got this terrible thought

Car computer speaking:

Sir I have decided on the behalf of the many to let you die bye bye

Markus

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

One possible solution would be to make the car and its occupants better able to withstand the possibility of a collision with a solid object, then the car would automatically serve off the road with the knowledge that even if it goes into a wall it won't kill the people inside it.
Quite how that happens is less simple, restraints can help and hinder equally, air bags are a possibility but if they deploy at the wrong time they can be problematic.
It's all a matter of Inertia and Mass.

Thanks Newton...

The notion of restraints is fine only insofar as they are actually used. How many times have you seen news reports where someone is killed because they weren't wearing legally required seat belt restraints and thrown out of a car in an accident? One big problem is the fact a driverless car will just make it possible for the occupants to engage in other activities which may induce them to remove the restraints. We've all seen people putting on make up, shaving, reading, and any other number highly questionable activities while behind the wheel. A driverless car would be little more than a smaller personal bus and the occupants, including the nominal driver, would most likely be involved in activities occupying their attention other than management of the vehicle. It is an age-old problem: technology and progress is very often undone by human nature and human folly...


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[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Or maybe instead of driver licensing....they introduce a new system that enters all of your information into the cars onboard computer so that the car is only registered to you. Nobody else will be able to drive the car and nobody will be able to use the car without entering license data.

Who will develop this? Ubisoft Auto, inc.

There's a frightening thought...

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

There's a frightening thought...

LOL

[vienna]

Scarier thought: The Apple iCar:

[Salesman] Yes, the Apple iCar is a quantum leap forward in automotive engineering and a re-imagining of the total concept of what the driving experience should be.

[Customer] Are there any downsides?

[Salesman] None at all. You have the rich history of Apple innovation and quality to support your purchase.

[Customer] OK, I'll buy one!

[Salesman] Sign here.(Customer signs.) Now the condition of ownership are these: you can only use Apple tires, parts, fuel, and any other items pertaining to the operation of the vehicle. Please note the iCar will not function unless you also buy an Apple iPhone or iPad. Also, it is expected you will buy a new iCar at least once a year when Apple makes upgrades to the iCar. As a new, original iCar owner, you will be given Priority Status guaranteeing you a place in at least the second one hundred customer waiting to buy the next iCar upgrade. Enjoy your motoring experience!...


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[Platapus]

Putting on my Election Officer hat...

/thread derail

Driving licenses won't become obsolete as they are the most common form of ID used when casting a vote in an election. Hint Hint

Tuesday is Election day in many of the states. Hint Hint hint.

Please vote. Hint Hint Hint hint

/thread re-rail

[pognivet]

computers arent all theyre cracked up to be theres over 10,000 errors on average in the code for united states ballistic missile targeting systems giving over your life to the computer is like giving it over to satan in the future everyone will have to get microchips on their right hand or their forehead in order to buy or sell and if you dont get one you cant drive or use public transportation or receive social security or apply for college the computer is primarily a tool of the oppressor it is used to put things on file even at the time were living in most people get their news and information from the internet but a site can easily be deleted or shut down forever and that information is lost forever unlike when its in a physical form so like i said to trust your life every day to a computer to drive a car is insane when the software that is supposed to synchronize the rotors on the v22 osprey supposedly the most advanced transportation aircraft in the world malfunction regularly and kill a ton of people even without cars being fully automated to have them controlled by a central processor has caused a ton of deaths such as the toyota scandal where the car would accelerate and wouldnt stop and now we live in a police state so if the car has wireless connection the police can just shut the car off from a distance and kill you or take you to jail like they do with rodney king and sam dubose and kelly thomas and waleter scott well thats my two cents see you later

[Sailor Steve]

Here's a new word to look up: Punctuation.

[Stealhead]

[Jimbuna]

Take a deep breath and see how far you can get