Alien nomads could destroy earth

mapuc · 10-04-15, 03:36 PM

If the title was my thoughts most of you would laugh, but it ain't and isn't that funny if I or some one else not known said these things

Here are the link to the article where a famous person has said these things

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...roy-world.html

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Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach

Red October1984 · 10-04-15, 03:59 PM

Well shoot.

At work today, I and several others made a zombie survival plan but now since this is going to happen we'll have to change all of it.

Oberon · 10-04-15, 04:29 PM

Wait...I've seen this one, Will Smith saves us all.

Still, the guy isn't wrong, I mean this has been said by people since 1898, compared to advanced lifeforms we are but cattle or vermin, to be horded and farmed or exterminated as needed.

Chances are though any advanced species would send out Von Neumann machines ahead to terraform any planet they wanted to colonise, or to harvest any planet they wanted the materials from.

Still, it's a bit late now, anyone within about a 100 lightyears will know of our existence or learn of it within the next decade or two, and it'll take them at least a century to travel to us assuming that they have near light speed propulsion systems. If they don't then it'll be a magnitude longer before they reach us.

By this point I would hope that we would at least have got a footprint on Mars, and our technology in terms of AI and human to machine connections would be much further ahead that we might not exist as homio-sapiens anymore having moved into transhumanism and to posthumanism.

It's both incredibly exciting and absolutely terrifying at the same time.

Torplexed · 10-04-15, 05:05 PM

There is no need to worry about aliens destroying the Earth, we're perfectly capable of doing it ourselves.

The fact that we still exist is strong evidence that there are no billion year old highly xenocidal species out there as there are a number of ways (beserker Von Neuman probes, a Niccol-Dyson laser, ect) in which they could simply wipe out all life-bearing or potentially life-bearing planets in their local group of galaxies in less time than any intelligent species could get to the point where they started transmitting

Just because Faster Than Light drive might exist, we tend to conclude that any hostile aliens will have immediately paved the galaxy. But, as Douglas Adams noted space is vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big and FTL travel is likely really, really expensive in resources. I think if FTL was that easy, apart from its expense in resources, then there would literally be advanced aliens everywhere, if they exist at all. There is not much evidence suggesting that is the case, unless we are being kept in some zoo. (highly speculative but being kept locked in a interplanetary cage with a "do not agitate sign", seems appropriate to our species at times.)

u crank · 10-04-15, 05:27 PM

Hmmph. Alien nomads. Ya better think twice. We Humanoids have pretty much subjugated this world. We went to the moon and kicked those moon men the heck out. Then we sent an unmanned craft to Mars and those dudes ran off before we could get a look at them. Bring em on!

Torplexed · 10-04-15, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Hmmph. Alien nomads. Ya better think twice. We Humanoids have pretty much subjugated this world. We went to the moon and kicked those moon men the heck out. Then we sent an unmanned craft to Mars and those dudes ran off before we could get a look at them. Bring em on!

Yeah, and the Russians kicked Venusian butt. Sure, the corrosive elements on Venus had the Venera probe for lunch, but who cares? Humans rule!

mapuc · 10-04-15, 05:41 PM

It is funny I should read this today-yesterday I saw Independence Day

It also makes me wonder if Hawkings have seen to much of "Hollywoods version of how Aliens are"

Markus

10-04-15, 03:59 PM	#2
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Well shoot. At work today, I and several others made a zombie survival plan but now since this is going to happen we'll have to change all of it. __________________

10-04-15, 05:05 PM	#4
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	There is no need to worry about aliens destroying the Earth, we're perfectly capable of doing it ourselves. The fact that we still exist is strong evidence that there are no billion year old highly xenocidal species out there as there are a number of ways (beserker Von Neuman probes, a Niccol-Dyson laser, ect) in which they could simply wipe out all life-bearing or potentially life-bearing planets in their local group of galaxies in less time than any intelligent species could get to the point where they started transmitting Just because Faster Than Light drive might exist, we tend to conclude that any hostile aliens will have immediately paved the galaxy. But, as Douglas Adams noted space is vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big and FTL travel is likely really, really expensive in resources. I think if FTL was that easy, apart from its expense in resources, then there would literally be advanced aliens everywhere, if they exist at all. There is not much evidence suggesting that is the case, unless we are being kept in some zoo. (highly speculative but being kept locked in a interplanetary cage with a "do not agitate sign", seems appropriate to our species at times.) __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

10-04-15, 05:27 PM	#5
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,744 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Hmmph. Alien nomads. Ya better think twice. We Humanoids have pretty much subjugated this world. We went to the moon and kicked those moon men the heck out. Then we sent an unmanned craft to Mars and those dudes ran off before we could get a look at them. Bring em on! __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

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10-04-15, 04:29 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Wait...I've seen this one, Will Smith saves us all. Still, the guy isn't wrong, I mean this has been said by people since 1898, compared to advanced lifeforms we are but cattle or vermin, to be horded and farmed or exterminated as needed. Chances are though any advanced species would send out Von Neumann machines ahead to terraform any planet they wanted to colonise, or to harvest any planet they wanted the materials from. Still, it's a bit late now, anyone within about a 100 lightyears will know of our existence or learn of it within the next decade or two, and it'll take them at least a century to travel to us assuming that they have near light speed propulsion systems. If they don't then it'll be a magnitude longer before they reach us. By this point I would hope that we would at least have got a footprint on Mars, and our technology in terms of AI and human to machine connections would be much further ahead that we might not exist as homio-sapiens anymore having moved into transhumanism and to posthumanism. It's both incredibly exciting and absolutely terrifying at the same time.

10-04-15, 05:41 PM	#7
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It is funny I should read this today-yesterday I saw Independence Day It also makes me wonder if Hawkings have seen to much of "Hollywoods version of how Aliens are" Markus